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DougieP
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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2-Dec-2018, 12:15 PM

Mavimao said:

I honestly think the new makers want to re-shape the whole Force-training aspect of the original/prequel trilogy in order to move the narrative of new stories along faster.

Instead of having every new Force sensitive person having to dedicate a chunk of his or her life training (and thus taking up narrative time as well), we can do an X-Men-esque “awakening” in which characters are given raw powers but need guidance on what to do with those powers (so with great power comes great responsibility etc).

I understand fans’ frustrations with Rey’s sudden abilities, but did we really need another training montage?

No, we dont need another training montage but there are tons of ways around it. Have the training happen in between films, just like the OT & PT did, its been done before. You could even do it like they did in the Clone Wars TV show. Ahsoka was already trained to use her powers (assumed by Yoda - see Ep2) but when passed onto Anakin to continue her training, all she needed was “guidance on what to do with those powers” - exactly like you said. Story doesn’t have to slow down at all for the sake of training.

With all these insane new powers and instant knowledge on how to use them (including broom boy), jedi are starting to feel more like gods and Luke, under Disney cannon, is now the weakest jedi that ever lived with how much he struggled. Even Anakin “the chosen one” had it rough.

RogueLeader said:

Regardless, I think going through that process made me really think about what those movies were trying to say, and in the end it made me appreciate the prequels we already have even more. And while the movies clearly have problems (enter fan edits), I love the overall story they tell.

Maybe you won’t ever come around on the new films, and if you ever want to talk about them with me I would be happy to share my opinion, but I think for all of the people it is just going to take time for them to really get into them. I’m not saying they’re perfect, I’m over on the fan edit threads all the time trying to think of ways to improve them, but I think the overall story fits appropriately with the saga as a whole.

I personally love the prequels but yes, they do have a bunch of issues. BUT like you say, you love the story, even though the execution was off. However, I dont see much of a story in the sequel trilogy except from “We are bad and you are good. Lets fight!”. 7 isnt connected well to 6 (no, I shouldnt have to read 3 books to know whats going on) and 7 & 8 dont connect well ether. There is no narrative that links each together. When watching 2 & 5 for the first time, you somewhat knew what to expect story wise. Ep8 cuts away from 7 and yet sets nothing at all up by the end of it that literally ANYTHING could happen in 9 due to a lack of overarching story. Of course, some may like this and thats fine.

If I ever do start warming up the the sequels, it would have to be through a fan edit that massively overhauled the story and, unfortunately, that seems only possible through title crawls and/or reshuffling scenes & doing background replacement in order to create a totally different narrative. Been thinking a lot about this actually.