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yotsuya
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Info: Star Wars - What is wrong and what is right... Goodbye Magenta
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7-Nov-2018, 2:26 PM

Ronster said:

If you watch the Gout Dvd when 3p0 is going in the tub from a dissolve in…

Look at the cyan hexagon lights behind him. They go from being Cyan to red once the disdolve effect is done.

Um… not quite. It happens in the middle of that fade in and in all the subsequent shots the two affected lights are green.

these are shown as Green hecagon lights now in later transfers but I think they are actually that cyan color in reality.

They are green in every single transfer that I included. No cyan

but the sudden change in color would probably be the telecine machine starting it’s settings which was not possible to do on the actual dissolve effect. Hence cyan suddenly became red all of a sudden on this shot.

This is also the reel change so the fade is is the start of a new session.

Vader with pink lights on his belt rather than green when he enters the Tantive.

Vaders chest plate…

On and on weird and unusual and impossible without something altering the image in an extreme way. But it’s also probably something that improved the way the film looked in many ways.

I appreciate the effort but would like to improve upon that effort.

Everything you are talking about could be an artifact of video processing. They telecined the film to a master tape. Then they sent it off for duplication where it was copied again, adding any pre-film items like the CBS Fox logo adds or trailers, and then duplication to VHS or LD. If you are familiar with video processing, such strange color changes can crop up. Take a look at the French Pyramid Boxset and its odd color issues. Those didn’t come from the print used and they aren’t an indication of color shifts on the film or in the telecine or changed settings in the telecine. Take a look at the shot at the end of reel 1 and the shot the starts reel 2. There are a lot of details we don’t know about some of the transfers, but the three direct from film transfers for the Puggo Grand, 4k77, and SSE are very well documented from the raw scans through the clean up and color correction process so we know there are no major color shifts in those. Here is the shot that ends reel 1 and the shot that starts reel 2 (where you spotted the error - which I now must fix in my correction).


There is not much of a change other than the overall image is darker because the scene went inside from outside. There are no changes in color in the GOUT at this point, only those two isolated lights on that panel that inexplicably blink red all of a sudden. No other areas of the image change color which would happen if the telecine machine settings changed. The color slant of each print is maintained. Some are reddish, some are yellowish and the color slant carried over from the end of reel 1 to the start of reel 2. The error in the GOUT has to be a video artifact for that to happen like that.