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moviefreakedmind
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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7-Oct-2018, 4:58 PM

Jay said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Jay said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Jay said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Jay said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Jay said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Jay said:

Besides, it’s my experience that most people overestimate their own intelligence and don’t realize a minimum IQ would exclude them. They take an “IQ test” they found on Facebook and it tells them they’re a genius, after which they like and share a post made by a Russian bot about Hillary and pizzerias or Trump and Nazis.

That’s a false equivalence. Trump’s emboldening of neoNazis is not just as ludicrous as Pizzagate conspiracies. Nice false equivalence. You almost got away with it, but alas, nope.

My goal wasn’t to make a direct comparison, but to demonstrate that Russian disinformation tactics rely on lack of intelligence and critical thinking ability to rile up their target. Neo-Nazis being emboldened by Trump is a real thing; Trump supporting Nazis isn’t, but that’s what less intelligent liberals buy into. Keep trying.

Trump’s refusal to condemn neoNazis or disavow their support is arguably supportive of Nazis. It definitely legitimizes their cause.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmaZR8E12bs&feature=youtu.be

Roughly the 2-minute mark is what you’re looking for.

It’s a weak and pathetic offhand comment made only to defend the merits if the Unite the Right rally, which was organized by neoNazis.

You: “He never denounced them.”

Me: “Yes he did, see here.”

You: “It wasn’t enough.”

Decent attempt at moving the goalpost. Try again, though.

Look, stealing someone’s schtick only makes you look embarrassing, especially when you use the “try again” thing when I was actually right. Try again, for fuck’s sake.

Keep deflecting.

Try again.

You know you’re an embarrassment when you’re more immature than even I am.

Why take anything you post seriously then? Why respond in a serious manner?

Because I’m still right and am making reasonable arguments about what I’m talking about. George Carlin was often pretty immature and he still knew what he was talking about.

Everyone should remember the next time that they engage in a debate with you that your tactics will be immature and not worthy of a response.

lawl. What a joke.

Just admit that you believe Trump is a Nazi sympathizer, his supporters are morons, and nothing he ever says will be enough to convince you otherwise. That would be more respectable than pretending his words matter.

He didn’t condemn them. He said they “should be condemned” and then proceeded to defend their rally without actually condemning them and their rally or denouncing their support of him.

Semantics. You’re playing grammar games for the sake of proving your point, because…

I do think he’s a Nazi sympathizer and I think his supporters are morons

Thanks for finally admitting it. You’ve dodged it for pages and pages of posts, so it’s nice that you’re being genuine for once.

Finally admitting it? I’ve felt that way for a long time. I haven’t been pretending. I’ve always thought Trump’s supporters were morons. I don’t think that all of his voters are bad or stupid. I explained the distinction I make between Trump voters and supporters a while ago.

You only draw this distinction between Trump’s “supporters” and Trump’s “voters” so you can continue to use labels like racist, moron, etc. in your rhetoric and then retreat behind “I know they’re not all like that” when you want to appear magnanimous.

I don’t throw the “racist” label around very much, usually just when it’s relevant. I do call a lot of people morons. Just recently I was complaining to a friend about how much of a moron Bill Maher is for not realizing that Hillary Clinton was a corrupt, corporatist pile of shit that handed the election to Donald Trump on a silver platter. So that word in my lexicon isn’t unique to Trump supporters.

Can you put a number to it? How many of the 60+ million Trump voters are racist morons? You clearly feel Trump wouldn’t hold the office without the support of racist morons, so the number must be relatively high.

How could I put a number to it? I’m not a fucking fortune-teller. I can’t read minds. If I put a percentage to the number of morons at Trump’s rallies I’d probably estimate around 98-99% with maybe 70% of them being outwardly racist, although the number of racists would depend on the city. That’s my ballpark estimate.

I’ve also never said that he wouldn’t hold office without the support of racist morons. I guess presumably he wouldn’t have won if not a single racist moron voted, maybe, but those people vote Republican these days anyway so I don’t think that racism (although it’s an obvious element of his base) won the election for him. I’ve said he wouldn’t be in power without the Electoral College, which is true, but the states that spun that around for him were Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. I don’t think racist voters turned those states around. I think those states lost due to Hillary’s incompetence as well as the corruption of the corporate Democratic Party that has sold out the working-class repeatedly and did so again right before the election by scamming Bernie Sanders, who was very popular in those states, out of the nomination. Bernie Sanders was much more progressive on race issues than Hillary was, by the way. So once again, you’ve fallen flat on your face in your attempt to put words in my mouth. Try again. Keep trying. Better luck next time. I’m sure you’ll fail just as hard the next time, but I wish you luck anyway. Please continue to lie compulsively about what I think in order to turn me into a caricature of the SJW “everybody is racist” types that your rightwing Youtube buddies have taught you to argue against. It’s, to quote our president, “SAD!”