sorry just finish work… Using Lightworks NLE but it no longer supports mpeg as of new version but still the result is different.
VLC is doing exactly what i want put this in NLE or even convert file it acts different the control is different and creates issues. Going to try womble.
Edit:
Effects might be in different colorspace is possibly the issue.
perhaps YPbPr or YCbCr is color space needed for effect to work correctly? Not in RGB anyway.