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All Things Star Trek — Page 191

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Man, the creative team on STD is really trying to course correct this season:
Star Trek: Discovery - Season 2 | New York Comic Con Trailer

They’ve slapped hair on the Klingons and are trying real hard to retcon it:

L’Rell explained that the change in the Klingon’s appearance was inspired by the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode “Rightful Heir” and the story of how Kahless created the first bat’leth from his own hair. The idea is that Klingons shave their heads during times of war and grow their hair during times of peace.

It also sounds like they’re going to try and slip in the TOS and TNG style Klingons at some point. Like they should have done last season:

“In season two, you are going to see much different designs,” Hetrick said. “You are going to see different houses you haven’t seen before. One of the most important things to us was that at this point in canon, as we head towards the current version of unification, the houses really each grow up on different planets. It is an Empire, it is not just Qo’noS…We have seen six of the great houses in close up in season one. As we move forward into the next season, I promise that we will continue exploring and unpacking and unfolding that infinitely interesting story of what the Klingon culture looks like on a wider level.”

I’ll be watching out of morbid curiosity. There’s no way you’ll ever convince me this is the Prime timeline.

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I’d have more respect for the people-that-be if they’d just set this in the Kelvin Timeline or a third universe. But nope, mind games then damage control.

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Tobar said:

They’ve slapped hair on the Klingons and are trying real hard to retcon it:

Spock’s more hairy too:

A bit unkempt for a Vulcan. Is it logical? Perhaps he was staying someplace cold and required additional protection?

That Klingon design isn’t meshing well with the hair. Maybe it’s just a matter of getting used to it after seeing everyone bald for a season (and that one movie). Hairless Klingons is a non-issue anyway in the grand scheme of Things That Don’t Work In DSC.

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Apparently Klingons lag behind in manicure technology as well. Worf would have wrecked his station on the bridge with nails like that! 😛

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As much as I hate to veer off the discussion about klingon manicure (I guess that’s the one aspect of klingon culture Ma Worf decided her kid wouldn’t honour?), here’s a DS9 film frame, courtesy of the soon-to-be-released documentary:

.jpg artifacting aside, it looks predictably gorgeous.

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Now they only have to give the entire rest of the series the same treatment.

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Just a bit longer until the costs go down, and they’re not able to peddle those ancient SD transfers to households with 4k TVs. The push for 8k is about to begin, so it should happen any year now…

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What universe is Discovery part of? The Prime Universe (Which I doubt). I know it may be just a creative decision, but if it were the Prime timeline, then the Enterprise would look exactly as it did in the original series, based off of canon (unless they’re going to retcon it by showing that the Enterprise was later refitted to what we see in TOS).

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It’s “officially” part of Prime but nothing about it is consistent with that or even the Kelvin timeline. It’s really its own thing but they’re trying to jam it into the Prime timeline.

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m_s0 said:
The push for 8k is about to begin, so it should happen any year now…

Huh?

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skywalkerfan101 said:

What universe is Discovery part of? The Prime Universe (Which I doubt). I know it may be just a creative decision, but if it were the Prime timeline, then the Enterprise would look exactly as it did in the original series, based off of canon (unless they’re going to retcon it by showing that the Enterprise was later refitted to what we see in TOS).

If you actually watch it, it’s a new, different entity that’s closer to the Kelvin timeline than to anything else Star Trek.

If you read the marketing crap, it’s totally Prime and if it doesn’t look it just give it some time to get there, honest, scout’s honor.

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The push for 8k is about to begin, so it should happen any year now…

Huh?

There’s some 8k TV trade show buzz already:

https://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/8k-tv-everything-you-need-to-know/
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/10/samsungs-obscenely-expensive-85-inch-8k-tv-ships-later-this-month/
https://www.cnet.com/news/8k-tv-what-you-need-to-know/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2018/09/04/samsung-q900r-8k-tv-first-impressions-haters-gonna-hate-and-miss-out/

Hey, if it gets CBS to pay up they’re free to try selling 8k to me.

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That pisses me off. They tried so hard pushing 4K and consumers have only just now embraced it. We’ve got the 4K Blu-ray standard… Now they’re shoving that aside for a new format?? I don’t expect it to go well for them.

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Tech advancing this fast (assuming it’s not just marketing and wishful thinking, which I think it is to a degree at this stage) is a good thing - cost of 4k drops, adaptability increases, and we get a higher chance of some old masters getting dusted off for that reason.

Consumers will benefit (I highly doubt we’ll be seeing 8k BDs anytime soon), and insane people will get to buy some really nice, really expensive, and really useless TVs.

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Still waiting on the holographic displays Tv Guide said back in 1980 we’d all have in the the new century. 😛

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8K might be silly, but I hope it happens for the reasons stated above that it’ll make 4k cheaper.

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SilverWook said:

Still waiting on the holographic displays Tv Guide said back in 1980 we’d all have in the the new century. 😛

Wait, you mean you don’t already have six of those?

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There’s pretty much no point to 8k.

Talk to me in 5 years.

He’s kind of right in that it’ll make zero difference for anything shot on less than an 8K camera, even for most film-based content. Also, hardly anybody can see pixel structure with 4K displays at normal viewing distances, so adding more pixels isn’t going to improve the experience in a meaningful way for most people. 4K already gave us the most noticeable improvements with HDR, a wider color gamut, and higher frame rates.

I have a 27" 5K monitor and I have to put my eyes within a few inches of the screen to make out even the faintest pixel structure. At about 20" away, which is my normal viewing/working distance and where the screen takes up a significant portion of my field of vision (like sitting close at the theater, but not too close), there’s no discernible pixel structure at all.

I’d be willing to bet that a 4K HDR recording of a front-seat roller coaster ride at 120fps on a large screen would be enough to cause motion sickness and vomiting in many people. How much more realistic does it need to be?

I say this as an avid A/V enthusiast.

Back on topic: I still haven’t seen STD and won’t buy it on disc, but I’d gladly add DS9 in HD to my collection, right alongside my TNG and TOS Blu-rays.

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Sadly the TNG blurays seemed to have cost them too much money to be interested. I’d love an HD transfer for Netflix though, how I usually watch star trek.

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I just got a my first 4k TV ever, and now they’re shoving 8k down our throats already. HDR is still growing as a standard for 4k TVs. Hell, there isn’t 4K content on many services yet. What, so now that 8k is out, people will think 4k is “too blurry” (that’s what they started to say to 1080p). If someone tries to claim that 4k is too blurry in the next few years, they are a fool. How can you struggle to see things in 4k? You shouldn’t have a problem with 1080p.

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Lol @ the notion that 4k is because people couldn’t make out 1080p for being too blurry

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Possessed said:

Lol @ the notion that 4k is because people couldn’t make out 1080p for being too blurry

Even if I could read this, I wouldn’t.

Can’t wait till this site supports HDR and Dolby Atmos.