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Post #1246460

Author
Jay
Parent topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Date created
5-Oct-2018, 11:31 PM

moviefreakedmind said:

Jay said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Jay said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Jay said:

Besides, it’s my experience that most people overestimate their own intelligence and don’t realize a minimum IQ would exclude them. They take an “IQ test” they found on Facebook and it tells them they’re a genius, after which they like and share a post made by a Russian bot about Hillary and pizzerias or Trump and Nazis.

That’s a false equivalence. Trump’s emboldening of neoNazis is not just as ludicrous as Pizzagate conspiracies. Nice false equivalence. You almost got away with it, but alas, nope.

My goal wasn’t to make a direct comparison, but to demonstrate that Russian disinformation tactics rely on lack of intelligence and critical thinking ability to rile up their target. Neo-Nazis being emboldened by Trump is a real thing; Trump supporting Nazis isn’t, but that’s what less intelligent liberals buy into. Keep trying.

Trump’s refusal to condemn neoNazis or disavow their support is arguably supportive of Nazis. It definitely legitimizes their cause.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmaZR8E12bs&feature=youtu.be

Roughly the 2-minute mark is what you’re looking for.

It’s a weak and pathetic offhand comment made only to defend the merits if the Unite the Right rally, which was organized by neoNazis.

You: “He never denounced them.”

Me: “Yes he did, see here.”

You: “It wasn’t enough.”

Decent attempt at moving the goalpost. Try again, though.

Just admit that you believe Trump is a Nazi sympathizer, his supporters are morons, and nothing he ever says will be enough to convince you otherwise. That would be more respectable than pretending his words matter.

Is this the part where I whine that you didn’t acknowledge my other post? Not sure how that works.

I didn’t acknowledge your other post because it didn’t actually say anything of value.

Or it said things you can’t reasonably counter because you know them to be true, deep down.

No, it was mostly just faux centrism that I found unexciting. I’ll reexamine and counter it point by point if you want me to.

Why? It’ll just be more contrarian blather.

CatBus said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Jay said:

Besides, it’s my experience that most people overestimate their own intelligence and don’t realize a minimum IQ would exclude them. They take an “IQ test” they found on Facebook and it tells them they’re a genius, after which they like and share a post made by a Russian bot about Hillary and pizzerias or Trump and Nazis.

That’s a false equivalence. Trump’s emboldening of neoNazis is not just as ludicrous as Pizzagate conspiracies. Nice false equivalence. You almost got away with it, but alas, nope.

I believe he’s talking hypothetically. I don’t think Russian bots actually pushed the Pizzagate theory – that was Cernovich saying that. Similarly, Russian bots haven’t been comparing the Trump administration to the early days of the Nazis – that was Holocaust survivors saying that. But Russian bots theoretically could post on either topic.

Oh, you’re comparing Cernovich to Holocaust survivors. Nice try! Almost got away with it!

What a terrible attempt to parody my post. It doesn’t even make sense. If he’d implied both topics were false then you’d have a point. Try again.

This was almost an effective way to distract from the fact that you got called out on an erroneous assumption. Keep trying.

Uh, no. Not at all. Plus you’re just using my own style of mockery against me which indicates a near total lack of creativity on your part. My assumption wasn’t erroneous. Your post implied an equivalence between Pizzagate and Trump-Nazi connections. The same way you implied an equivalence between Black Lives Matter and white nationalists a few days ago.

I didn’t imply parity between Pizzagate and Neo-Nazis. You inferred it—which you do quite often, and usually mistakenly, which is what happens when your emotions dictate your state of mind and you’re intent on finding boogeymen everywhere.

Also, I took back what I said about BLM, which wasn’t equating them to white nationalists, but Antifa, which was a mistake because they’re not equivalent. But feel free to interpret it in whatever way best fits your argument so you can continue to label me as “far-right” or “on the wrong side of history” or whatever other looney lefty slogan strikes you.