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Post #1246412

Author
Jay
Parent topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Date created
5-Oct-2018, 8:05 PM

moviefreakedmind said:

Jay said:

Besides, it’s my experience that most people overestimate their own intelligence and don’t realize a minimum IQ would exclude them. They take an “IQ test” they found on Facebook and it tells them they’re a genius, after which they like and share a post made by a Russian bot about Hillary and pizzerias or Trump and Nazis.

That’s a false equivalence. Trump’s emboldening of neoNazis is not just as ludicrous as Pizzagate conspiracies. Nice false equivalence. You almost got away with it, but alas, nope.

My goal wasn’t to make a direct comparison, but to demonstrate that Russian disinformation tactics rely on lack of intelligence and critical thinking ability to rile up their target. Neo-Nazis being emboldened by Trump is a real thing; Trump supporting Nazis isn’t, but that’s what less intelligent liberals buy into. Keep trying.

Is this the part where I whine that you didn’t acknowledge my other post? Not sure how that works.

CatBus said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Jay said:

Besides, it’s my experience that most people overestimate their own intelligence and don’t realize a minimum IQ would exclude them. They take an “IQ test” they found on Facebook and it tells them they’re a genius, after which they like and share a post made by a Russian bot about Hillary and pizzerias or Trump and Nazis.

That’s a false equivalence. Trump’s emboldening of neoNazis is not just as ludicrous as Pizzagate conspiracies. Nice false equivalence. You almost got away with it, but alas, nope.

I believe he’s talking hypothetically. I don’t think Russian bots actually pushed the Pizzagate theory – that was Cernovich saying that. Similarly, Russian bots haven’t been comparing the Trump administration to the early days of the Nazis – that was Holocaust survivors saying that. But Russian bots theoretically could post on either topic.

Oh, you’re comparing Cernovich to Holocaust survivors. Nice try! Almost got away with it!

Russian bots post, share, and promote all kinds of content with the purpose of sowing discord. Right or left has nothing to do with it. The goal is maximum damage.

pleasehello said:

Jay said:

pleasehello said:

moviefreakedmind said:

and probably put in place some kind of IQ test requirement for people running for president so that someone as stupid as Trump can’t run again.

What about an IQ test requirement to allow people to vote? I don’t think that’s the worst idea either.

Do you think that would affect the outcome of elections? Are low-IQ voters shifting the results? I’m sure there are those who think cutting out less intelligent voters would shift election results to the left, but believing you’re smart when you’re not isn’t exclusive to the right.

Besides, it’s my experience that most people overestimate their own intelligence and don’t realize a minimum IQ would exclude them. They take an “IQ test” they found on Facebook and it tells them they’re a genius, after which they like and share a post made by a Russian bot about Hillary and pizzerias or Trump and Nazis.

Not sure. I don’t think progressive or democratic voters are more intelligent than conservative voters at all. But it’s hard to deny that President Stable Genius pandered quite a bit to the uneducated contingent of conservative voters.

A Democrat voter has to believe in all sorts of fears and fantasies in order to buy into what that party is selling them. What makes a vote for Hillary based on patriarchy or rape culture any more rational than a vote for Trump based on Mexican drug dealers and rapists?

I don’t know if it would effect election outcomes, but hopefully it would result in voters making more informed decisions. Too many people vote with their hearts and their guts instead of their heads.

It’s a myth that more intelligent people are more rational. They might make more informed decisions, but ultimately their decision-making is still guided by their emotions and they tend to twist their decisions to match their feelings rather than the other way around.