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flametitan
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Religion
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2-Oct-2018, 8:17 PM

RicOlie_2 said:

flametitan said:

RicOlie_2 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Another example of Christian opposition to freedom:

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2018/09/anti-lgbtq-protesters-swarmed-library-protest-drag-queen-story-hour/

If you call the normalization of mental illnesses freedom, then sure. Gender dysphoria is contagious among certain segments of the population, so I have a hard time believing that it’s normal and healthy to believe you’re in the wrong body. What happened to telling people to be happy with their body and the way they are?

Oh, buddy… Are you sure you want to have this conversation with me? We’re going to have this conversation. ROGD is a sham based upon a faulty study that was quickly rescinded. In particular, it only ever surveyed the parents of the teens, who have met on a “support forum.” In this context, of course it seemed sudden; teens are notorious for hiding things from their parents, especially if they believe the parents would be unnaccepting of it.

If you asked the teens themselves, they’re going to give you a far different answer. Probably something along the lines of, “It felt like something was off about me for the longest time, but it wasn’t until I met other people like me that I began to piece it all together and accept it.” It’s not that these teens are “catching the Trans,” it’s that they’re starting to meet others and not feel so alone about it.

OK, interesting. There was something in the article I linked to about some of the girls who identified as guys reverting back to identifying as girls after a year or so. I didn’t see an explanation for that in the article you’re linking to (not saying there isn’t one, just that I’m still kind of curious about it).

JEDIT: Oh, and I missed that you typed that out in response to people protesting drag queens. Drag. Queens. Believe it or not, Drag performers are not trans people. Well, not inherently. There are definitely trans people who either enjoy drag, or use it to explore their own feelings of themselves. However, just as many, if not more drag performers are cisgender, and just use drag as a performative art.

Desistance/detransition is a separate subject, though not entirely unrelated. Detransitioners (people who began transition but then stopped) are rare. However, most of the ones I’m familiar with all support transition, and access to transition care.

Also, note how these stories tend to focus on transmasculine individuals. Transfeminine individuals are conveniently overlooked, despite normally dominating the media discussing trans individuals. Focusing on the AFAB detransitioners supports the narratives of the bigoted, as their reasons for originally desiring transition (sexual trauma or misogyny) play right into the bigot narrative of why trans men exist.
By contrast, when trans women detransition (and they’re more likely to detransistion than transmasculine individuals), it’s usually because they get treated with suspicion and bigotry, compounded with the fear they won’t ever pass and always be seen as visibly trans. More often than not, they’ll also retransition at some point. A mighty inconvenient truth for the people who want to gatekeep transition care.

Desistors, (people who stopped IDing as trans before transition) Some might just be cis (and/or gender nonconforming), but there’s also the chance that they desisted because of the barriers that go into transition. Remember, as a child or teen, the hurdles that get between them and transition is terrifying. Likewise, repression is a common coping tactic among trans people early on, even if they have a supportive family or friend circle. It is especially more likely if you suspect or know that they aren’t supportive.

Well duh, they’re not necessarily trans people. I may misunderstand their intention, however. I thought the purpose was generally to support people who identify as transgender.

  1. The people protesting it in the article don’t seem to realize there’s a difference. More often than not, it tends to work in my favour to assume people don’t get the difference, as well.

  2. Drag is usually not trans support. Heck, Ru Paul, one of the more famous drag queens, is frequently decried for his transphobia. Likewise, terminology that drag performers may use to refer to themselves would be insulting to refer to Trans people as.