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DominicCobb said:

Mrebo said:

Star Wars used to be more fun.

Considering this site was made in 2003, I don’t see how that’s relevant to the discussion.

I think the griping about this forum is silly, but Star Wars fandom was in a better place before Disney. It is also silly to pretend - pretending is all the rage, especially pretend rage - that the recent movies haven’t had a deleterious impact here that the prequels didn’t really have.

The blue elephant in the room.

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Yeah because with the prequels it was more unified that they were disappointing whereas with the Disney movies some of us actually like them? Yeah much more fun

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If only it were as simple as some of us like them and some of us don’t. Anyway, here isn’t the place for continuing that, there are several threads for it. Basic point is that if you find this site unpleasant the effect of the new movies is one reason, if indirectly. Maybe it’s because we’re in the Trump era. I see the contagion of contentiousness everywhere. If we don’t all take responsibility for ourselves and stop blaming others, it won’t stop.

The blue elephant in the room.

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Or we could just stop bitching and start doing the Stanky Leg

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Star Wars has been sucking wind since 1983.

Now let’s talk about the absolute blessing that is uncooked pizza.

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Mrebo said:

DominicCobb said:

Mrebo said:

Star Wars used to be more fun.

Considering this site was made in 2003, I don’t see how that’s relevant to the discussion.

I think the griping about this forum is silly, but Star Wars fandom was in a better place before Disney. It is also silly to pretend - pretending is all the rage, especially pretend rage - that the recent movies haven’t had a deleterious impact here that the prequels didn’t really have.

When there were no new movies out, no one gave a shit. I’ll give you that, the site was much more laid back because of it. Now fans are losing their minds every year because their childhoods are ruined. So there’s a bit more tension, as there’s much less consensus on the films themselves than with the prequels (where most everyone agreed they were bad).

Saying “Star Wars fandom was in a better place before Disney” just seems outright silly though. I’d argue online discourse in general has gotten more hyperbolic and polarizing over the years, which is a much bigger factor.

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DominicCobb said:

Mrebo said:

DominicCobb said:

Mrebo said:

Star Wars used to be more fun.

Considering this site was made in 2003, I don’t see how that’s relevant to the discussion.

I think the griping about this forum is silly, but Star Wars fandom was in a better place before Disney. It is also silly to pretend - pretending is all the rage, especially pretend rage - that the recent movies haven’t had a deleterious impact here that the prequels didn’t really have.

When there were no new movies out, no one gave a shit. I’ll give you that, the site was much more laid back because of it. Now fans are losing their minds every year because their childhoods are ruined. So there’s a bit more tension, as there’s much less consensus on the films themselves than with the prequels (where most everyone agreed they were bad).

Saying “Star Wars fandom was in a better place before Disney” just seems outright silly though. I’d argue online discourse in general has gotten more hyperbolic and polarizing over the years, which is a much bigger factor.

We agree on your first paragraph and on increased polarization in general. Both points I made in my fashion.

You have a thread seemingly open to arguments about the best time in Star Wars. (To be fair I know your question there was essentially rhetorical.)

The blue elephant in the room.

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I take huge issue with the idea that Disney ruined (or is ruining) Star Wars, or that they have ruined people’s childhoods, considering that people said the same damn thing about Lucas when the prequels—especially Episode II–came out.

If Star Wars is ruined, then just watch the OOT and be done with it. You don’t see me whining up and down anymore about how Paramount is shitting on Star Trek with Discovery. I already voiced my complaint and then move on down the road. I understand that people have a right to be upset when the story they want isn’t the story they get, but being so endlessly melodramatic about it just ruins the fun that might be had from enjoying what one does like.

Life is already hard enough without repeatedly taking a dump all over what amounts to escapist fiction.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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Mrebo said:

DominicCobb said:

Mrebo said:

Star Wars used to be more fun.

Considering this site was made in 2003, I don’t see how that’s relevant to the discussion.

but Star Wars fandom was in a better place before Disney. It is also silly to pretend - pretending is all the rage, especially pretend rage - that the recent movies haven’t had a deleterious impact here that the prequels didn’t really have.

true, very true.

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Possessed said:

Yeah because with the prequels it was more unified that they were disappointing whereas with the Disney movies some of us actually like them? Yeah much more fun

With the prequels, I could dislike them without being considered sexist. I could be angry at Lucas and hate various characters without being considered toxic.

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chyron8472 said:

If Star Wars is ruined, then just watch the OOT and be done with it.

I can’t unless I want to watch my old vhs copies (and my copy of ESB was stone when it was accidentally left in a vcr sent out for repairs), a copy that it technically illegal, or the non-anamorphic.

If I want to say that the PT or ST or both did damage to Star Wars I should be able to say so.

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Mrebo said:

Maybe it’s because we’re in the Trump era. I see the contagion of contentiousness everywhere. If we don’t all take responsibility for ourselves and stop blaming others, it won’t stop.

I think it is more than that. The membership here has become more liberal/left leaning and and very pc and sjw minded. For instance, I found the politics thread much more enjoyable when I was just about the only non-conservative in there. Now it seems as if you either have to follow the liberal mindset(woke) or you’re offensive.

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Mrebo said:

DominicCobb said:

Mrebo said:

DominicCobb said:

Mrebo said:

Star Wars used to be more fun.

Considering this site was made in 2003, I don’t see how that’s relevant to the discussion.

I think the griping about this forum is silly, but Star Wars fandom was in a better place before Disney. It is also silly to pretend - pretending is all the rage, especially pretend rage - that the recent movies haven’t had a deleterious impact here that the prequels didn’t really have.

When there were no new movies out, no one gave a shit. I’ll give you that, the site was much more laid back because of it. Now fans are losing their minds every year because their childhoods are ruined. So there’s a bit more tension, as there’s much less consensus on the films themselves than with the prequels (where most everyone agreed they were bad).

Saying “Star Wars fandom was in a better place before Disney” just seems outright silly though. I’d argue online discourse in general has gotten more hyperbolic and polarizing over the years, which is a much bigger factor.

We agree on your first paragraph and on increased polarization in general. Both points I made in my fashion.

You didn’t really though? At least not in the post I quoted.

You have a thread seemingly open to arguments about the best time in Star Wars. (To be fair I know your question there was essentially rhetorical.)

I’m not sure what about the question was rhetorical, and my thread didn’t really have anything to do with the “fandom” or this forum. I don’t care about the concept of “fandom” and don’t personally identify with it. There’s a difference between the content and how the fans respond to it.

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Warbler said:

Possessed said:

Yeah because with the prequels it was more unified that they were disappointing whereas with the Disney movies some of us actually like them? Yeah much more fun

With the prequels, I could dislike them without being considered sexist. I could be angry at Lucas and hate various characters without being considered toxic.

Forgive me if I’m misremembering, but I don’t recall anyone ever calling you such over your opinions on the ST.

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Some people were called sexist, therefore… everyone was called sexist? I don’t understand the reasoning.

The Person in Question

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Warbler said:

chyron8472 said:

If Star Wars is ruined, then just watch the OOT and be done with it.

I can’t unless I want to watch my old vhs copies (and my copy of ESB was stone when it was accidentally left in a vcr sent out for repairs), a copy that it technically illegal, or the non-anamorphic.

If I want to say that the PT or ST or both did damage to Star Wars I should be able to say so.

It’s not the saying so that bothers me. It’s the constantly saying so. Not from you specifically but from the “fanbase”.

Also, buy the OT Blurays and then download Harmy’s Despecialized Trilogy. It’s basically the OOT in HD. Then, shatter the OT blurays with a hammer. IMO, problem solved.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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chyron8472 said:

Warbler said:

chyron8472 said:

If Star Wars is ruined, then just watch the OOT and be done with it.

I can’t unless I want to watch my old vhs copies (and my copy of ESB was stone when it was accidentally left in a vcr sent out for repairs), a copy that it technically illegal, or the non-anamorphic.

If I want to say that the PT or ST or both did damage to Star Wars I should be able to say so.

It’s not the saying so that bothers me. It’s the constantly saying so. Not from you specifically but from the “fanbase”.

Also, buy the OT Blurays and then download Harmy’s Despecialized Trilogy. It’s basically the OOT in HD. Then, shatter the OT blurays with a hammer. IMO, problem solved.

I am not going to give any money to an se copy sorry.

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I’m sure your principles feel real nice when you’re watching your laserdisc quality movies.

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DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

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Yeah because with the prequels it was more unified that they were disappointing whereas with the Disney movies some of us actually like them? Yeah much more fun

With the prequels, I could dislike them without being considered sexist. I could be angry at Lucas and hate various characters without being considered toxic.

Forgive me if I’m misremembering, but I don’t recall anyone ever calling you such over your opinions on the ST.

Well, it seems like some think the only reason people hate TLJ is because they are sexist. No one may have told me that I specifically am sexist but it seems implied about all who hate TLJ.

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Warbler said:

Now it seems as if you either have to follow the liberal mindset(woke) or you’re offensive.

You do realize that you are the most easily offended person on this site, don’t you?

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Possessed said:

I’m sure your principles feel real nice when you’re watching your laserdisc quality movies.

I don’t have any laserdiscs.

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i don’t recall being called sexist even if i do recall not liking the ST.

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Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

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Yeah because with the prequels it was more unified that they were disappointing whereas with the Disney movies some of us actually like them? Yeah much more fun

With the prequels, I could dislike them without being considered sexist. I could be angry at Lucas and hate various characters without being considered toxic.

Forgive me if I’m misremembering, but I don’t recall anyone ever calling you such over your opinions on the ST.

Well, it seems like some think the only reason people hate TLJ is because they are sexist. No one may have told me that I specifically am sexist but it seems implied about all who hate TLJ.

No one here thinks that. Almost no one in general thinks that. It’s made up outrage.