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Democrats have been completely awful and untrustworthy. They wail and gnash their teeth about a further FBI background check but they fail to make any efforts, even behind closed doors, to investigate. They should have referred the matter to the FBI and the Chairman of the Committee right away. There is no excuse for that failure.
Should they make efforts behind doors to investigate? Yes.
Should they have referred the matter to the FBI and Chairman of the Committee right away? Yes.
Should the FBI be allowed to investigate now? Yes, I don’t see a good reason not to. Seems like the only excuse they can find for not allowing the FBI to investigate now is the fact that the Dems should have given to the FBI sooner. Well the question isn’t really what should have happened earlier, it’s what should happen now. I see no reason to not let the FBI investigate. If there is (other than that should have been done earlier), pleaese tell me.
The FBI would do what the Committee is responsible and able to do: follow leads and interview witnesses. The essential role of the FBI in a nomination process is to identify potential issues for Congress. I don’t know whether the FBI could subpoena witnesses who do not want to testify in this kind of situation, but the Committee can. The Democrats aim is to (at least) delay and that is what Republicans are fighting against.
But if a delay is what is needed to be able to investigate these claims thoroughly and justly, why not do it?
That is why Grassley isn’t subpoenaing witnesses. It’s why the White House isn’t asking for a halt in the process to allow the FBI to take over. There is the idea that even if Kavanaugh is innocent (as Republicans are apt to believe) then allowing a drawn-out investigation about an alleged event 36 years ago is unlikely to clear Kavanaugh. So for them it’s just a big waste of time.
I don’t see how investigating finding out more info about these claims is waste. Maybe it won’t uncover anything new or important, but maybe it will. I say in the interest of justice, do it.
The idea today was allowing the only potentially credible witness against him to say everything she wanted and to hear Kavanaugh’s denial to provide a opportunity to evaluate credibility. If there were any other solid evidence or witness to back up the claims, that would have been presented too.
Why about this other guy that was there. Shouldn’t he testify before they vote?
The FBI investigation idea does look tempting, with the hope that there is some evidence somewhere that would definitely resolve the issue one way or another. Right now that looks unlikely.
I say in the interest of justice, do it.
What about the other accusations? shouldn’t they be investigated too?
Questions lurking in the background include: why would someone with as an otherwise impeccable background have been a violent sexual maniac that one time?
It might be more than one time. There two other women accusing him of wrong doing.
If the allegation is true, how does that relate to who he has been in the 35 years since and his qualifications for the job on the Court?
If the allegation is true, he is guilty of sexual assault. In the minds of many that would automatically disqualify him. I’d be very uncomfortable having a someone guilty of sexual assault on the US Supreme Court. Maybe he has changed since then, but maybe he hasn’t. He was never brought to justice for it and this woman suffered serious mental trauma and had to have therapy. Can we really find no one more suitable? (this is all assuming the allegation is true).
You return repeatedly to the idea of justice but the FBI investigation would not be a criminal investigation and would yield no conclusion.
But an FBI investigate could yield more information and evidence, yes? Such info and evidence could aid the Senators in making their decision, yes? So why not do it?
Criminal charges could be pursued in Maryland, if anyone were interested in “justice” as that has been traditionally defined.
Well I am interested in getting as much info and evidence as reasonably possible before the Senate decides whether or not to put this guy on the US Supreme Court. This includes info and evidence for both sides. I fail to see what is wrong with that.
Instead we have his name dragged through the mud on charges that are very difficult to disprove even if false. Until and unless Maryland pursues charges and convicts him, he is not someone guilty of sexual assault.
Well, unless you want to hold off on the confirmation until Maryland due process plays out (and statute of limitations may play a role there), the Senate will have to make a decision without the benefit of a criminal trial. I know he has been dragged through the mud, but should the Senate have just ignored the accusation? Yes he wasn’t convicted(yet), that doesn’t mean he didn’t do it. OJ wasn’t convicted, a lot of people still think he is a murderer.