That said, to argue against your point, the number of people on the right who show up for protests and marches are dwarfed by left. Trump inspires lefties to go nuts and march in the millions. The right largely just stays home and stockpiles guns đ
Did you forget the other rallies Trump inspires? The left rallies may be largerâŚ
Itâs interesting that rallies on the right make you think of white nationalists. Do you immediately associate rallies on the left with Antifa? BLM?
Anti-fascists and Black Lives Matter are not the equivalent of white nationalists. Interesting that you make that connection.
Antifa is a violent organization packed with âgoodâ fascists who think theyâre saving the country from âbadâ fascists. Just as nuts as anybody on the far right.
Uh, theyâre not fascists. Theyâre anarchists and communists. Thereâs a clear political difference. I donât support Antifa, but Iâve made clear that I am in favor of some types of political violence. Not all violence is the same. I think that we need to remove all judges and representatives that are bought and paid for by corporations. If we can do that peacefully, then thatâs great, but Iâm not opposed to people doing it forcefully.
Antifa may label themselves as something they view as honorable and worthwhileâand obviously you sympathize with their viewsâbut theyâre lying extremists who want to suppress free speech and are willing to use violence to achieve their goals.
I do sympathize with their views even though I donât support them. My problem was calling them fascists. Theyâre anarchists and communists, which I think are stupid and destructive ideologies, but theyâre factually distinct from fascism.
I shouldnât have lumped BLM with them.
Of course you shouldnât have, but I find it interesting that you did.
Just call me a racist and get it over with. I can see your eyelid twitching from here.
Oh, youâre one of these guys that thinks everyone is out to call him racist, huh? I donât think that, I think that youâre someone that likes to equate outright racism against non-white people with less-outright racism against white people. It isnât the first time youâve done it either. You equated Trumpâs refusal to denounce white supremacists with Obamaâs neglecting to denounce black supremacists.
That said, to argue against your point, the number of people on the right who show up for protests and marches are dwarfed by left. Trump inspires lefties to go nuts and march in the millions. The right largely just stays home and stockpiles guns đ
What the hell are you talking about? Donât you remember the Tea Party? What about the pro-life march every year? Of course theyâre protesting less now, their side is in power.
And how the fuck is it nuts to march?
First of all, chill out. I didnât say it was ânuts to marchâ. It was an expression.
You said they go nuts and march.
Yes, exactly. I didnât say only nuts march.
I donât see marching as a direct result of going nuts.
I also said conservatives stockpile guns, which is obviously hyperbole also.
It really isnât. They arenât necessarily nuts and they do stockpile guns. Not all of them, but a sizable amount.
I mean is it not obvious to anyone else I was exaggerating for effect? Was the little winky face not enough of an indicator?
It didnât seem like an exaggeration. You say the left is crazy or nuts or whatever all the time so why should it be an exaggeration this time.
Conservative protesters typically donât turn out in the same numbers as liberal protesters, even at their own marches.
Why does that matter? People that want change tend to protest more. Go figure. Protest is often a good thing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_protests_in_the_United_States_by_size
Do any of those look like conservative causes?
No, but to pretend that protest (especially crazy protest) is unique to the left is ridiculous.
Did I say protest was unique to the left? No. I said that conservatives donât protest in the same numbers as liberals. I backed that up with data.
Yet another instance where you demonstrate that you read what you want into what I say rather than whatâs actually written.
I felt like you were ignoring conservative activism (or attempts at activism) in this country. Countless boycotts, the Tea Party, pro-life bullshit, anti-gay activism (like Kim Davis and the rallies to support her). Not all protests take the form of marches.
I prefer antagonistic discussion.
No shit. Iâd argue itâs mostly unproductive and largely designed to get a rise out of people rather than exchange ideas.
I donât care about getting rises out of people. I donât see how being antagonistic is unproductive. Thatâs how shit gets changed. I also donât really like âexchanging ideasâ in the calm, tepid sense. I have things to say and Iâm very passionate about them and when I see things that I disagree with or that I think are uninformed or unreasonable, then I call it out.