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Jay
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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27-Sep-2018, 7:12 PM

moviefreakedmind said:

Jay said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Jay said:

Handman said:

Jay said:

That said, to argue against your point, the number of people on the right who show up for protests and marches are dwarfed by left. Trump inspires lefties to go nuts and march in the millions. The right largely just stays home and stockpiles guns 😉

Did you forget the other rallies Trump inspires? The left rallies may be larger…

It’s interesting that rallies on the right make you think of white nationalists. Do you immediately associate rallies on the left with Antifa? BLM?

Anti-fascists and Black Lives Matter are not the equivalent of white nationalists. Interesting that you make that connection.

Antifa is a violent organization packed with “good” fascists who think they’re saving the country from “bad” fascists. Just as nuts as anybody on the far right.

Uh, they’re not fascists. They’re anarchists and communists. There’s a clear political difference. I don’t support Antifa, but I’ve made clear that I am in favor of some types of political violence. Not all violence is the same. I think that we need to remove all judges and representatives that are bought and paid for by corporations. If we can do that peacefully, then that’s great, but I’m not opposed to people doing it forcefully.

Antifa may label themselves as something they view as honorable and worthwhile—and obviously you sympathize with their views—but they’re lying extremists who want to suppress free speech and are willing to use violence to achieve their goals.

I shouldn’t have lumped BLM with them.

Of course you shouldn’t have, but I find it interesting that you did.

Just call me a racist and get it over with. I can see your eyelid twitching from here.

moviefreakedmind said:

Jay said:

That said, to argue against your point, the number of people on the right who show up for protests and marches are dwarfed by left. Trump inspires lefties to go nuts and march in the millions. The right largely just stays home and stockpiles guns 😉

What the hell are you talking about? Don’t you remember the Tea Party? What about the pro-life march every year? Of course they’re protesting less now, their side is in power.

And how the fuck is it nuts to march?

First of all, chill out. I didn’t say it was “nuts to march”. It was an expression.

You said they go nuts and march.

Yes, exactly. I didn’t say only nuts march. I also said conservatives stockpile guns, which is obviously hyperbole also.

I mean is it not obvious to anyone else I was exaggerating for effect? Was the little winky face not enough of an indicator?

Conservative protesters typically don’t turn out in the same numbers as liberal protesters, even at their own marches.

Why does that matter? People that want change tend to protest more. Go figure. Protest is often a good thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_protests_in_the_United_States_by_size

Do any of those look like conservative causes?

No, but to pretend that protest (especially crazy protest) is unique to the left is ridiculous.

Did I say protest was unique to the left? No. I said that conservatives don’t protest in the same numbers as liberals. I backed that up with data.

Yet another instance where you demonstrate that you read what you want into what I say rather than what’s actually written.

moviefreakedmind said:

I prefer antagonistic discussion.

No shit. I’d argue it’s mostly unproductive and largely designed to get a rise out of people rather than exchange ideas.