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Jay
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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26-Sep-2018, 7:04 PM

flametitan said:

moviefreakedmind said:

It is too vague. I think they’re implying calls for genocide, calls for violence, or things of that nature. Either way, that’s a problem with hate speech laws in general, not C-16.

My understanding for why it’s vague is that if it’s well defined, it becomes easier to loophole either as prosecution or defendant. The law is worded such the way it is so that a judge and Jury can determine whether or not a particular incident falls under hate speech without having to set precedent.

Vague laws that affect what people can and can’t say are exactly my concern. I don’t want anyone to be harassed and I think you have to be a special kind of jackass to deliberately misgender a trans person, but the law should be absolutely clear about what is and is not okay so it can enforced properly and without too much interpretation.

moviefreakedmind said:

More vague generalizations with absolutely no clear evidence or examples to back it up. Notice how I actually provide concrete examples in my posts? When I talk about how awful Jordan Peterson is I quote him and reference his work. I try to do this whenever I make claims in this thread, and though I don’t always do that well, it’s something that I try to do. You should start doing stuff like that because I don’t even know how to respond to any of this. It’s just “some people say this, some people say that. This vague thing is happening. That vague thing is happening.” It’s a waste of everyone’s time. Not because I disagree but because it doesn’t say anything. It’s just a vague statement that no one can relate to because we don’t even know what the problem is. What’s happening in the tech industry? Are people getting fired for voting Republican? Are they being forced to participate in gender-reassignment activities? Are they being forced to renounce God? What’s happening? How are we supposed to respond to “what it’s doing to the tech community right now” when you don’t even tell us?

You get combative, complain I’m ignoring you, then make baseless accusations when I do engage that demonstrate you either didn’t read or simply disregarded what I posted earlier. What’s the point of reading these walls of text?

Read the several paragraphs I posted about the Linux CoC pages ago. That’s real and it’s happening now.

Read again about Damore. But as you said in your response to that incident, it happened a whole year ago so I guess it’s not relevant anymore.

Watch the Google company meeting video where senior management expresses their sadness and concern, to the point of tears in some cases, that Hillary lost the election. This is a company meeting where anyone in attendance who is conservative certainly had views that would not have been welcome during that discussion. Tell me after watching it that Damore’s memo was handled fairly.

Read something other than traditional media outlets if you want to know these things. I’m happy to share what I know and discover to a certain degree, but you’re responsible for your own knowledge. Take what you’ve been given and use a damn search engine if you care to know more. You shouldn’t rely upon what you read on a forum any more than I do.