The "9000" Saga Edit (outdated thread) — Page 2

Author: ADigitalMan
Time: 15-Jul-2005 8:51 PM
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Hal,

Didn't see it mentioned earlier, but what did you do to fix the saber shots? Replace them with older source material, or actually re-rotoscope the shots? Just curious how much you've dived into the process.

BTW, you may want to hold of on re-doing TPM until the HD transfer comes out (whenever that ends up being). For now, the less-than-ideal transfer that we have will be my basis for DVD until the HD/BluRay debacle is settled and the hi-def format is standard.

--ADM

I am fluent in over six million forms of procrastination.

Author: Hal 9000
Time: 16-Jul-2005 1:06 AM
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Yes, I will definatley re-do the TPM edit if rumors about a new digital transfer are true.

And about fixing ESB sabers, I just adjusted the brightness and contrast of the questionable shots. ROTJ sabers are a bit more of a problem, but I handled them the same way. ROTJ sabers were *pretty* messed up, and in my version they suck *less*.

Also in ROTJ, I'm toying with maybe toning down the blue tint across the whole film. But the re-encoding detracts from the picture quality. We'll see how it looks, Womble is exporting it as I type.

I never had the nerve to make the final cut.

Author: Hal 9000
Time: 16-Jul-2005 11:08 AM
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It looks a lot better with less blue... but the half gig of picture quality that gets lost in the re-encode just isn't worth it.

I never had the nerve to make the final cut.

Author: russs15
Time: 16-Jul-2005 11:58 AM
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I know there's a laserdisc transfer that has the shot of Qui Gon saying "The situation has become much more complicated" wipe to the shot of Panaka walking past Jar Jar and Anakin in the Senate building. And there's no way to properly recreate this with the raw material on the DVD alone.

If anyone can post a decent-looking video clip of these shots, I can properly remove the air taxi sequence. If not, no big deal, it'll just still be in my edit.
Thanks if you can help!

My apologies for getting here a bit late but I have just discovered that I have a DVB copy of TPM that has the scenes you were looking for. The "TB Release" was posted on a.b.sw a few weeks ago and it is recorded from European Canal +

Here is a quote from the maker.........

Back in december 2001, european Canal+ aired the Special Editions and Phantom Menace on digital satellite.

These are the 1997 / 1999 cinematic versions of the movies, broadcast in anamorphic 2.35:1 with 2.0 sound,

If anyone wants more info, drop me a line.........

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Author: Hal 9000
Time: 16-Jul-2005 12:08 PM
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I would love that bit of footage!

Is it at all possible for you to run it through DVD Shrink or something and email that clip to me? That'd be great. I'm going to have to re-do TPM anyway, when the digital transfer is released.

I never had the nerve to make the final cut.

Author: russs15
Time: 16-Jul-2005 12:25 PM
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I am not too sure about chopping individual scenes like that but I can soon snail mail a copy......... (I will give it a try - no promises!!)

http://www.galactictradefederation.com/dvd/images/1.jpg

http://www.galactictradefederation.com/dvd/images/4.jpg

It also has the original crowd shot as the two headed alien is announcing Sebulba at the Pod Race.

http://www.galactictradefederation.com/dvd/images/5.jpg

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Author: Trooperman
Time: 16-Jul-2005 1:00 PM
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This is fantastic! Could you email that little clip to me? Or perhaps that wouldn't be convenient.

Either way, this is great

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Author: russs15
Time: 18-Jul-2005 7:31 PM
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Clips deleted - see extended clip below.............

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Author: Hal 9000
Time: 18-Jul-2005 10:01 PM
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Wow that's great, THANK YOU!

Could you post the first clip of the Jedi council again, with the complete shot before and after it? Reason I ask is because it'd look weird to have it suddenly cut to another source in mid-shot.
But that is exactly what I needed, so if you can post the shots before and after "The Situation has become much more complicated" - "There is no stability, only polotics."

Thank you thank you!!!

I never had the nerve to make the final cut.

Author: russs15
Time: 19-Jul-2005 8:46 AM
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I will have the extended shot up before the day is out....

Are there any other requests while I am at it??

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Author: Trooperman
Time: 19-Jul-2005 2:13 PM
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No- just wanted to say thank you- I've been looking for that shot in widescreen in good quality for ages, to restore the original edition of TPM.

Thanks so much

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Author: Hal 9000
Time: 19-Jul-2005 3:10 PM
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Nope, that'll do it!

Thanks for you help!

I never had the nerve to make the final cut.

Author: russs15
Time: 19-Jul-2005 3:22 PM
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No problem. I have very little video editting talent and will help out the talented ones all I can.

The talented and talentless form a symbiant circle. What happens to one of us will affect the other, you must understand this...........!!!???!!!???

Anyhow, as requested, here is the extended clip. It is a wee bit bigger than the original one and probably includes way too much but I was not taking any chances.

Clip 1 - Extended (15Mb)

BTW. A big thanks to boba feta for the advanced DVD Shrink tutorial that allowed me to do these clips.

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Author: Hal 9000
Time: 19-Jul-2005 4:17 PM
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Perfect! Thank you so much.

The Phantom Menace is now... truley finished. *sniff*

I never had the nerve to make the final cut.

Author: boba feta
Time: 19-Jul-2005 5:51 PM
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No worries man, what goes around comes around.

“I love Darth Editous and I’m not ashamed to admit it.” ~ADigitalMan

Author: ADigitalMan
Time: 19-Jul-2005 6:30 PM
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sah-weeeeet!

I am fluent in over six million forms of procrastination.

Author: Trooperman
Time: 20-Jul-2005 2:54 PM
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Just a quick note for interested parties (in restoring original cut of TPM): You don't need the shot of Watto cheering for Sebulba from the LD. It is present on the official DVD, Disc 2, during the extended scene (in anamorphic widescreen).

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Author: Hal 9000
Time: 20-Jul-2005 2:58 PM
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True, I included the Watto shot in my edit too.

It's not quite the "original" Sebulba intro, but closer.

When I went back to Womble Editor to patch in the shot and wipe to remove the air taxi sequence, I re-edited TPM all over from scratch. I think it's a lot better this time, and I did things a little different.
So that list on the first page might not be entirely accurate anymore.

A few things I did differently:
Overall better editing skill
removed Jar Jar's short spotlight after Qui Gon talks to Obi-Wan via commlink after leaving Watto's shop.
Removed Watto's line "and no one ELSE has a T14 hyperdrive, I promise you that!'
Removed Panaka's line "if we don't get the sheild generator fixed, we'll be sitting ducks"
Thanks to audio from 'BOTF', removed the "captain, look" dialogue. The ship just explodes without the crew freaking out.

I never had the nerve to make the final cut.

Author: Hal 9000
Time: 18-Nov-2005 6:46 PM
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Edited original post with ANH information.

I never had the nerve to make the final cut.

Author: Hal 9000
Time: 23-Feb-2006 10:29 PM
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This set of edits is drawing very close to being finished!

I just need clearance from a few more 'editors' who I borrowed some work from, and finish a few techincal difficulties with sound (#$*& %&# *$^ ^%#*!!!!) in TPM.

I'm very proud of the results, and have updated the original post with new information about the final changes I made, and other key information. This is looking up to be a fine edit.

I never had the nerve to make the final cut.

Author: eros
Time: 24-Feb-2006 8:25 AM
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On aotc did you reinstate padme's 'yes' line back in after she falls from the gunship? And remove the pointless bit of exposition at the end of Anakins revelation to padme in the garage on tatooine.

Author: Hal 9000
Time: 26-Feb-2006 8:57 AM
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No on both counts. If anyone has the audio, I'll save it and maybe use it if I ever have to re-edit any part of it.

I never had the nerve to make the final cut.

Author: Hal 9000
Time: 2-Mar-2006 5:42 PM
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Added more information to the original post. The edits are complete, and awaiting review!

I never had the nerve to make the final cut.

Author: dark_jedi
Time: 2-Mar-2006 6:52 PM
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thanks Hal 9000,my family and I will give them the QC treatment,just like for ADM i will get through them ASAP and get back to you(thanks ADM for the recommendation)you will get my opinion,and the opinion of a 5 year old and 17,so I will be covering all age groups LOL
thanks again Hal 9000,i am sure they will be great
DJ

Author: PaulisDead2221
Time: 3-Mar-2006 4:08 AM
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You should leave in the coughing for Grievous--it's okay as long as you establish in the opening crawl that he's a cyborg--he then becomes a wonderful little tool to foreshadow Anakin's destruction, instead of just another boss for the Episode 3 video game ("hit 'em in the center eye, R2!! aim carefully!!").

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