Hardwick’s accusations were lies. They were obviously made up by a really unstable person and the claims were inconsistent with reality. I don’t get this notion that there aren’t liars out there. That really confuses me; of course there are. That’s why we have real trials.
I don’t see how they were “obviously made up.”
It seemed pretty obvious to me and most other people that actually looked at it objectively.
I did though? I had never heard of Dykstra and was actually a fan of Hardwick’s. I’ve yet to see anything that doesn’t fit the story as described by her.
There’s no corroborating evidence, in fact, all other testimony contradicts her claims. Plus, all of her known behavior during their relationship implies her as an “abusive” partner. There’s reason to believe that she resented him ending the relationship. She’s mentally ill and has a long history of lying. There is no reason to believe that she’s telling the truth, and there’s compelling evidence to believe that she’s lying. I don’t get why that’s such an unbelievable possibility.
Just because no evidence has been presented doesn’t mean none exists. As for the rest I’d be interested to see citations. But I will say the story she published would seem to suggest that her apparent “mental illness” was either caused by or not helped by the relationship. For me, hearing Hardwick’s coworkers come out and say “that sounds about right” seems pretty damning, but I don’t know everything. Just seems insane to me to say “she’s obviously lying.” Never said it was an impossibility that she is but just doesn’t seem likely to me.
Society has been infantilized to the point where any real challenge cannot even be comprehended. I am upset that I have to share this earth with them, even moreso that I am young, that the reasonable people will die off before I do.
The irony is that you’re being just as emotional and irrational as you claim they are.
I’m not crying or demanding someone lose their job for upsetting me.
How dare someone cry? Don’t you think that maybe some of those people might consider Norm a hero, and the fact that he is disparaging something that is important to them could make them quite emotional. What if they had suffered sexual abuse? Don’t you think that could make their feelings especially strong on the matter?
You’re really reaching, aren’t you? No one should be crying over this. Honestly, I don’t even believe that anyone actually cares about this enough to cry about it, especially not soulless producers who’s sheer existence is to squeeze every dime they can out of any and everything. This is a manufactured controversy. Everyone on earth will forget about it two days from now.
It’s not reaching, it’s speculating how someone else might have that sort of reaction. Whereas some people take their own personal feelings as the only reasonable ones to have in any given situation, I understand that not everyone is like me and has had my life. (it’s called empathy)
Yeah, I don’t need your lesson on empathy.
Sorry if I though the concept was foreign to you, don’t know what made me think that.
I’m pretty conscious of other people’s perspectives. I disregard them a lot, but I am conscious of them. You disregard people who irritate you. You’ve done it to me quite a bit, actually. And that’s fine! I expect nothing less. One of the reasons that I don’t give a shit about how most people feel is because no one gives a shit about how I feel. It’s a fair trade.
I’m not sure what you mean by me “disregarding.” I disagree a lot. But I don’t disregard someone else’s experiences. I don’t know why you’re so nihilistic but I’m sure there’s a reason. Doesn’t mean I can’t disagree with you.
You were pretty quick to throw aside my take on 13 Reasons Why a while back, and there’ve been other times too. It’s okay, we all do it.
Well it was unfair of me to discredit your perspective without considering that it might be a factor, but in fairness that’s exactly what you were doing with your take, basically saying anyone who didn’t see things the same way you did was wrong.
That really wasn’t even quite what my take was. I was saying no subject should be off limits in storytelling just because of people get disturbed by it. There are movies and TV shows with messages or content that I find wrong or disgusting. It may affect my appreciation for the movie, but that’s it. I don’t think it should be off limits or shouldn’t be depicted in film.