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moviefreakedmind
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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12-Sep-2018, 6:51 PM

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

Handman said:

Norm Macdonald Tonight Show Appearance Cancelled After #MeToo Comments

This really pisses me off. Not only are his comments reasonable, they have nothing to do with what anyone is getting upset at. And of course, the best way to traverse a controversy is to deny the man in the middle of it a voice.

Even moreso, his comments had made senior producers of the show cry. I am not sure how we as a society can continue if we cry over a differing viewpoint. Everyone upset at him has taken his comments out of context and misconstrued them. The man is a comedian ffs.

The internet freaking sucks. This groupthink mentality is killing us.

How the hell were his comments reasonable?

It’s insane how people will always defend the dipshit over the people who are actually hurt.

Who was really “hurt”? Seriously.

We’re talking about “Me Too” right? People are hurt every day by sex pests of all sorts. And Norm Macdonald says he’s glad “Me Too is done” or whatever. How anyone could take Norm’s side on this is insane to me.

I thought we were talking about Macdonald, Louis CK and Roseanne Barr. No one was hurt by Macdonald or Roseanne and I don’t think that anyone was really hurt by Louis CK either, to be honest. Me Too uncovered some monsters, which is good, but it also encouraged a lot of fraudulent accusations like the ones against Aziz Ansari and Chris Hardwick. I’m glad that “time’s up” for the sexual harassers in the industry, but I also think that the whole public trial for anything resembling sexual misconduct is a terrible idea and I hope that we’re done with that.

You have to be kidding me about CK. That shit was fucked up and certainly could not insignificant emotional distress at the very least.

I guess. I don’t know, it’s a little fucked up and pretty pathetic but I don’t really care. He asked people if he could masturbate in front of them. There aren’t enough funny people in this world to start throwing them aside over something like that.

I don’t see how the accusations against Ansari or Hardwick were fraudulent. I don’t understand why people are so desperate to think accusers are lying, when putting yourself out there in that way is just putting a target on your back. There’s not much perceivable benefit.

I don’t get the benefit either, but that doesn’t mean that those accusations weren’t obviously bullshit. The Ansari ones seemed to be just an airing of a bad, uncomfortable date. Hardwick’s accusations were lies. They were obviously made up by a really unstable person and the claims were inconsistent with reality. I don’t get this notion that there aren’t liars out there. That really confuses me; of course there are. That’s why we have real trials.

As for public trial? Does it really matter? Hardwick’s back in the same spot he left. CK’s performing stand up again. That’s where comments like Norm’s are bullshit. The perpetrator’s lives and careers are doing just fine.

It does matter. Hardwick’s back and Ansari survived, but their reputations are forever tarnished by bullshit. I hate the guilty until proven innocent attitude that #MeToo has been pushing.

I agree that most of his comments weren’t “reasonable” per se, but who cares? Entertainment is going to be fucked if we crucify every single fucking person that says something that people find offensive.

Is it crucifying to cancel a single show appearance literally the day after he said those comments? Presumably his career will be just fine without one Tonight Show appearance.

I don’t think they should cancel anything. Fallon could’ve torn into him about what he said or something if it disturbed him that much. I didn’t say his career would be over either, but this shit sets bad precedence. People say stupid shit every day. All of us say stupid shit on a daily basis. I don’t like shutting people down over that.

Man, have you ever watched Fallon? It’s not that kind of show. It’s not surprising that they’d try to avoid controversy.

Right, that’s why Fallon sucks. He’s boring.