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Warbler said:

I have as just as much to protest via boycott as those that protest via disrespecting the Anthem.

Fuck. You. You miserable self centered entitled asshole.

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Possessed said:

Warbler said:

I have as just as much to protest via boycott as those that protest via disrespecting the Anthem.

Fuck. You. You miserable self centered entitled asshole.

Okay, let’s keep things civil in here.

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Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

chyron8472 said:

Personally, I think boycotting Nike is misdirected outrage, and that this outrage is just a fad. So many consumer boycotts come and go, and next year no one will remember this one. Being angry at Nike is just the recent popular thing to do.

Well I know it won’t do any good, but I won’t be buying anything from them. It is a matter of principle for me. I have as just as much to protest via boycott as those that protest via disrespecting the Anthem.

Honestly I think you’re the one disrespecting the country. You’re one of these people that’s opposed to any kind of protest that ruffles people’s feathers.

ruffing feathers is one thing, disrespecting the country is another.

I’ve also not once heard your justification for how this is disrespecting the anthem or why that’s even a bad thing, but I know you’ll never bother to actually explain that so I’ll stop asking.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/36/301

(a)Designation.—
The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.

(b)Conduct During Playing.—During a rendition of the national anthem—

(1) when the flag is displayed—

(A) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note;

(B) members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute in the manner provided for individuals in uniform; and

(C) all other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and

(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.

EDIT: And everybody already knows that you have a “right” to do whatever you fucking want so stop reminding us. We get it. We aren’t dumb. We know.

I will do whatever the fuck I want! and the reason I do remind you that is that it seems as though you don’t act like it sometimes.

Settle down. Now.

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Possessed said:

Warbler said:

I have as just as much to protest via boycott as those that protest via disrespecting the Anthem.

Fuck. You. You miserable self centered entitled asshole.

This is a personal attack and name calling and is against the rules. And what I said is true. I have the same right to protest as the players.

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Possessed said:

Warbler said:

I have as just as much to protest via boycott as those that protest via disrespecting the Anthem.

Fuck. You. You miserable self centered entitled asshole.

Well over the line. Temp ban.

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SilverWook said:

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

chyron8472 said:

Personally, I think boycotting Nike is misdirected outrage, and that this outrage is just a fad. So many consumer boycotts come and go, and next year no one will remember this one. Being angry at Nike is just the recent popular thing to do.

Well I know it won’t do any good, but I won’t be buying anything from them. It is a matter of principle for me. I have as just as much to protest via boycott as those that protest via disrespecting the Anthem.

Honestly I think you’re the one disrespecting the country. You’re one of these people that’s opposed to any kind of protest that ruffles people’s feathers.

ruffing feathers is one thing, disrespecting the country is another.

I’ve also not once heard your justification for how this is disrespecting the anthem or why that’s even a bad thing, but I know you’ll never bother to actually explain that so I’ll stop asking.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/36/301

(a)Designation.—
The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.

(b)Conduct During Playing.—During a rendition of the national anthem—

(1) when the flag is displayed—

(A) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note;

(B) members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute in the manner provided for individuals in uniform; and

(C) all other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and

(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.

EDIT: And everybody already knows that you have a “right” to do whatever you fucking want so stop reminding us. We get it. We aren’t dumb. We know.

I will do whatever the fuck I want! and the reason I do remind you that is that it seems as though you don’t act like it sometimes.

Settle down. Now.

I hope and assume this warning was about the last sentence in that post, and not the rest and I don’t see anything wrong with the rest of that post of mine. If so, I will heed your warning.

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Jay said:

Possessed said:

Warbler said:

I have as just as much to protest via boycott as those that protest via disrespecting the Anthem.

Fuck. You. You miserable self centered entitled asshole.

Well over the line. Temp ban.

For what it is worth, I am sure he just lost his temper and snapped. Goodness knows, I’ve done the same and said plenty I later regretted. I hope his ban will be short.

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Possessed said:

Warbler said:

I have as just as much to protest via boycott as those that protest via disrespecting the Anthem.

Fuck. You. You miserable self centered entitled asshole.

okay possesseds language was certainly uncalled for but he has a solid point. there is no comparison between your anger at a company, and a person trying to stand up for the lives of people who are being murdered.

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Warbler said:

Jay said:

Possessed said:

Warbler said:

I have as just as much to protest via boycott as those that protest via disrespecting the Anthem.

Fuck. You. You miserable self centered entitled asshole.

Well over the line. Temp ban.

For what it is worth, I am sure he just lost his temper and snapped. Goodness knows, I’ve done the same and said plenty I later regretted. I hope his ban will be short.

And warbler I respect you for understanding that possessed simply snapped. I too hope that that is an extremely short ban he got.

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Of all the things to boycott… we’ve had football players who were rapists, into dog fights, and all manner of truly horrible things that physically hurt innocent people. But which one that brings in the president and half the country, kneeling during the anthem? What a skewed sense of perspective. I hate this self-aggrandizing pseudo patriotism.

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Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

Of all the things to boycott… we’ve had football players who were rapists, into dog fights, and all manner of truly horrible things that physically hurt innocent people. But which one that brings in the president and half the country, kneeling during the anthem? What a skewed sense of perspective. I hate this self-aggrandizing pseudo patriotism.

Don’t talk to me about dog fighting. I once boycotted the Eagles for multiple seasons because they had that dog murderer on the team. I don’t recall the Eagles having a rapist on the team.

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dahmage said:

Possessed said:

Warbler said:

I have as just as much to protest via boycott as those that protest via disrespecting the Anthem.

Fuck. You. You miserable self centered entitled asshole.

okay possesseds language was certainly uncalled for but he has a solid point. there is no comparison between your anger at a company, and a person trying to stand up for the lives of people who are being murdered.

Yes, they are two different things. I wasn’t saying that hiring Kaepernick is as bad as an unjust police shooting. I was saying that both are peaceful protests and I have same right to do mine as they do theirs.

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Warbler said:

dahmage said:

Possessed said:

Warbler said:

I have as just as much to protest via boycott as those that protest via disrespecting the Anthem.

Fuck. You. You miserable self centered entitled asshole.

okay possesseds language was certainly uncalled for but he has a solid point. there is no comparison between your anger at a company, and a person trying to stand up for the lives of people who are being murdered.

Yes, they are two different things. I wasn’t saying that hiring Kaepernick is as bad as an unjust police shooting. I was saying that both are peaceful protests and I have same right to do mine as they do theirs.

Ok, I agree, but I don’t think it was in good taste to make that claim.

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dahmage said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

Possessed said:

Warbler said:

I have as just as much to protest via boycott as those that protest via disrespecting the Anthem.

Fuck. You. You miserable self centered entitled asshole.

okay possesseds language was certainly uncalled for but he has a solid point. there is no comparison between your anger at a company, and a person trying to stand up for the lives of people who are being murdered.

Yes, they are two different things. I wasn’t saying that hiring Kaepernick is as bad as an unjust police shooting. I was saying that both are peaceful protests and I have same right to do mine as they do theirs.

Ok, I agree, but I don’t think it was in good taste to make that claim.

If you agree, why is it in bad taste?

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Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

chyron8472 said:

Personally, I think boycotting Nike is misdirected outrage, and that this outrage is just a fad. So many consumer boycotts come and go, and next year no one will remember this one. Being angry at Nike is just the recent popular thing to do.

Well I know it won’t do any good, but I won’t be buying anything from them. It is a matter of principle for me. I have as just as much to protest via boycott as those that protest via disrespecting the Anthem.

Honestly I think you’re the one disrespecting the country. You’re one of these people that’s opposed to any kind of protest that ruffles people’s feathers.

ruffing feathers is one thing, disrespecting the country is another.

What’s wrong with disrespecting the country? Why is it automatically worthy of respect no matter what?

I’ve also not once heard your justification for how this is disrespecting the anthem or why that’s even a bad thing, but I know you’ll never bother to actually explain that so I’ll stop asking.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/36/301

(a)Designation.—
The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.

(b)Conduct During Playing.—During a rendition of the national anthem—

(1) when the flag is displayed—

(A) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note;

(B) members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute in the manner provided for individuals in uniform; and

(C) all other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and

(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.

I don’t care about any of this arbitrary bullshit. This has nothing to do with what I asked. I don’t see how it’s disrespectful not to do this crap. I don’t see why it’s bad to disrespect a country.

EDIT: And everybody already knows that you have a “right” to do whatever you fucking want so stop reminding us. We get it. We aren’t dumb. We know.

I will do whatever the fuck I want! and the reason I do remind you that is that it seems as though you don’t act like it sometimes.

Oh my god, why are you not able to comprehend that not liking something doesn’t mean that I believe you don’t have the right? I’m just tired of reading that shit all the goddamn time.

EDIT: I remember a long time ago that you claimed to be inspired by the work of MLK. I don’t see how that’s possible given how opposed to offending the status quo you are. MLK wouldn’t have accomplished anything if he’d been too scared to offend blind patriots that can’t handle anything that might vaguely disrespect the country.

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Warbler said:

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

Possessed said:

Warbler said:

I have as just as much to protest via boycott as those that protest via disrespecting the Anthem.

Fuck. You. You miserable self centered entitled asshole.

okay possesseds language was certainly uncalled for but he has a solid point. there is no comparison between your anger at a company, and a person trying to stand up for the lives of people who are being murdered.

Yes, they are two different things. I wasn’t saying that hiring Kaepernick is as bad as an unjust police shooting. I was saying that both are peaceful protests and I have same right to do mine as they do theirs.

Ok, I agree, but I don’t think it was in good taste to make that claim.

If you agree, why is it in bad taste?

to be clear, i do agree in your ‘right to protest peacefully’, i just think the thing you have chosen to protest is so silly, that it is in bad taste to compare that to the very serious protest by kaepernick.

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Plenty of things are legal rights, but still tasteless. The Westboro Baptist Church, for example, operates completely within the law.

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dahmage said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

Possessed said:

Warbler said:

I have as just as much to protest via boycott as those that protest via disrespecting the Anthem.

Fuck. You. You miserable self centered entitled asshole.

okay possesseds language was certainly uncalled for but he has a solid point. there is no comparison between your anger at a company, and a person trying to stand up for the lives of people who are being murdered.

Yes, they are two different things. I wasn’t saying that hiring Kaepernick is as bad as an unjust police shooting. I was saying that both are peaceful protests and I have same right to do mine as they do theirs.

Ok, I agree, but I don’t think it was in good taste to make that claim.

If you agree, why is it in bad taste?

to be clear, i do agree in your ‘right to protest peacefully’, i just think the thing you have chosen to protest is so silly, that it is in bad taste to compare that to the very serious protest by kaepernick.

But I have already agreed they are two different things and that I was only saying the right to protest is the same.

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I still don’t care about the NFL or Nike.

I like Warb’s patriotism.

The blue elephant in the room.

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moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

chyron8472 said:

Personally, I think boycotting Nike is misdirected outrage, and that this outrage is just a fad. So many consumer boycotts come and go, and next year no one will remember this one. Being angry at Nike is just the recent popular thing to do.

Well I know it won’t do any good, but I won’t be buying anything from them. It is a matter of principle for me. I have as just as much to protest via boycott as those that protest via disrespecting the Anthem.

Honestly I think you’re the one disrespecting the country. You’re one of these people that’s opposed to any kind of protest that ruffles people’s feathers.

ruffing feathers is one thing, disrespecting the country is another.

If you don’t know why the ideals of America are worth of respect, I don’t know what to tell you.

What’s wrong with disrespecting the country? Why is it automatically worthy of respect no matter what?

I’ve also not once heard your justification for how this is disrespecting the anthem or why that’s even a bad thing, but I know you’ll never bother to actually explain that so I’ll stop asking.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/36/301

(a)Designation.—
The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.

(b)Conduct During Playing.—During a rendition of the national anthem—

(1) when the flag is displayed—

(A) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note;

(B) members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute in the manner provided for individuals in uniform; and

(C) all other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and

(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.

I don’t care about any of this arbitrary bullshit. This has nothing to do with what I asked.

It has everything to do with what you asked. What I posted is the proper etiquette during the National Anthem. You asked how kneeling during the anthem is disrespectful. It is disrespectful because it violates the proper etiquette above. You are supposed to stand at attention.

EDIT: And everybody already knows that you have a “right” to do whatever you fucking want so stop reminding us. We get it. We aren’t dumb. We know.

I will do whatever the fuck I want! and the reason I do remind you that is that it seems as though you don’t act like it sometimes.

Oh my god, why are you not able to comprehend that not liking something doesn’t mean that I believe you don’t have the right? I’m just tired of reading that shit all the goddamn time.

There is a lot of shit I am tired of reading.

EDIT: I remember a long time ago that you claimed to be inspired by the work of MLK. I don’t see how that’s possible given how opposed to offending the status quo you are. MLK wouldn’t have accomplished anything if he’d been too scared to offend blind patriots that can’t handle anything that might vaguely disrespect the country.

That I am shows that there is a difference between ruffling feathers and disrespecting the anthem. I don’t recall MLK ever disrespecting the anthem.

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Mrebo said:

I still don’t care about the NFL or Nike.

I like Warb’s patriotism.

I am glad someone does.

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Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

chyron8472 said:

Personally, I think boycotting Nike is misdirected outrage, and that this outrage is just a fad. So many consumer boycotts come and go, and next year no one will remember this one. Being angry at Nike is just the recent popular thing to do.

Well I know it won’t do any good, but I won’t be buying anything from them. It is a matter of principle for me. I have as just as much to protest via boycott as those that protest via disrespecting the Anthem.

Honestly I think you’re the one disrespecting the country. You’re one of these people that’s opposed to any kind of protest that ruffles people’s feathers.

ruffing feathers is one thing, disrespecting the country is another.

If you don’t know why the ideals of America are worth of respect, I don’t know what to tell you.

I actually do respect the ideals of America. I think that the flag worship you and President Trump demand is antithetical to those ideals.

What’s wrong with disrespecting the country? Why is it automatically worthy of respect no matter what?

I’ve also not once heard your justification for how this is disrespecting the anthem or why that’s even a bad thing, but I know you’ll never bother to actually explain that so I’ll stop asking.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/36/301

(a)Designation.—
The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.

(b)Conduct During Playing.—During a rendition of the national anthem—

(1) when the flag is displayed—

(A) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note;

(B) members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute in the manner provided for individuals in uniform; and

(C) all other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and

(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.

I don’t care about any of this arbitrary bullshit. This has nothing to do with what I asked.

It has everything to do with what you asked. What I posted is the proper etiquette during the National Anthem. You asked how kneeling during the anthem is disrespectful. It is disrespectful because it violates the proper etiquette above. You are supposed to stand at attention.

I don’t care about the prescribed etiquette. Why is it bad to disregard that? Even if it is disrespectful, which I don’t grant, why is it bad to be disrespectful when you’re addressing horrifying issues? Nobody got anything done by being completely respectful. In fact, I think that the Kaepernick protest is too respectful. It’ll take a lot more to put an end to police brutality in this country.

EDIT: And everybody already knows that you have a “right” to do whatever you fucking want so stop reminding us. We get it. We aren’t dumb. We know.

I will do whatever the fuck I want! and the reason I do remind you that is that it seems as though you don’t act like it sometimes.

Oh my god, why are you not able to comprehend that not liking something doesn’t mean that I believe you don’t have the right? I’m just tired of reading that shit all the goddamn time.

There is a lot of shit I am tired of reading.

EDIT: I remember a long time ago that you claimed to be inspired by the work of MLK. I don’t see how that’s possible given how opposed to offending the status quo you are. MLK wouldn’t have accomplished anything if he’d been too scared to offend blind patriots that can’t handle anything that might vaguely disrespect the country.

That I am shows that there is a difference between ruffling feathers and disrespecting the anthem. I don’t recall MLK ever disrespecting the anthem.

It actually shows your ignorance of history and the man you respect. Here’s what MLK had to say about folks like you: " I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” " - Letter from the Birmingham Jail, 1963.

Had MLK “disrespected the anthem” would you still like him?

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