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DominicCobb said:

dahmage said:

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chyron8472 said:

Possessed said:

Basically just a joke on why the pizza chain (I think it’s called papa Murphys?) is so popular when they don’t even cook your pizza for you. They just make you a custom frozen one (I have heard it’s actually pretty good though). The joke is basically just a callback to the time there was a pages long debate on the legitimacy of such a practice.

The Papa Murphy’s near my house went out of business. Went over there one day to get a pizza and the whole store was gutted with the sign missing.

I guess it wasn’t popular enough.

The place was gutted? So that’s why there was no oven?

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Fair

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The only fun part about weddings is thinking about how meaningless all those sappy, lovey-dovey vows will be in four years when the bride and groom get divorced.

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I wouldn’t go that far. I’d say it’s mildly amusing at best.

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I’m going to the visitation after work today of the husband of one of my coworkers who spent about 40 years not feeling that way.

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moviefreakedmind said:

The only fun part about weddings is thinking about how meaningless all those sappy, lovey-dovey vows will be in four years when the bride and groom get divorced.

I don’t understand that. I’ve been married for coming up on 14 years, and I don’t understand how, apart from abuse or infidelity, someone wouldn’t (figuratively) fight tooth-and-nail for one’s marriage. My wedding day is still considered by me as the best day of my life. I love my daughter, but I still vividly remember the feeling of standing up in front of everyone I know and telling them how much I love my wife. So I don’t understand why people would be married for 5 or 10 years and then just give up because life is hard.

Not that my life is all sunshine and roses. We’ve had several really serious circumstances, especially recently.

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chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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Divorce isn’t “giving up.” If one’s marriage isn’t working, there’s no good reason to stay to together and be miserable (unless there’s kids involved, but even then there’s a point at which it’d be worse to stay together).

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If you got married without knowing you loved each other then you’re stupid. If you’re the type of person who can fall out of love with a person without them doing anything or any outside event happening then marriage as a concept just isn’t for you. If you get divorced simply because “you don’t love each other anymore” then you either rushed into the marriage without thinking it through, marriage in general isn’t for you, or you’re giving up.

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Possessed said:

If you got married without knowing you loved each other then you’re stupid. If you’re the type of person who can fall out of love with a person without them doing anything or any outside event happening then marriage as a concept just isn’t for you. If you get divorced simply because “you don’t love each other anymore” then you either rushed into the marriage without thinking it through, marriage in general isn’t for you, or you’re giving up.

Those are some pretty naive generalizations, honestly. And I don’t even disagree for many cases. But still, you’re generalizing. People are more complicated than that. Our societal conceptions of how “love” work are largely bullshit.

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DominicCobb said:

Divorce isn’t “giving up.” If one’s marriage isn’t working, there’s no good reason to stay to together and be miserable (unless there’s kids involved, but even then there’s a point at which it’d be worse to stay together).

But why isn’t it working? My being married isn’t just about me and what I want. If I’m selfish about what I want, that’s not fair to her.

If one is miserable, there are ways to try to remedy that. Go on a date. Go on a weekend road trip just the two of you. Figure out what your spouse is interested in and inject yourself into it. Get involved in what they’re doing. In my view, it’s not just about loyalty to my spouse—it’s about loyalty to my vow. I stood up in front of my extended family, hers, and our mutual friends from college, and made a promise to her to stick together whatever happened. And I don’t take that promise lightly. It’s extremely important to me.

I’m just saying if one’s marriage isn’t working, they better damn well try to make it work before giving up on it, because otherwise that means they gave their word and so their word isn’t worth spit. There’s no excuse for the divorce rate being as high as it is, other than that people don’t understand what being married actually means.

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chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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When people get married they make a promise to each other. If they both mutually agree it’s not working, then there’s pretty much no reason to keep the promise just for the sake of it. I don’t see how wasting years on a relationship that doesn’t work is preferable to admitting you made a mistake.

Not to mention the whole ~sacred vow~ business is really quite silly. There’s no way to predict the future. Years go on and people change. It’s only natural. The whole “forever” expectation is dumb, if you ask me. There’s no way to know for sure what will happen between now and eternity. Trying to stay true to your word just sounds like trying to prove you’re right, which isn’t necessarily the basis of a good relationship.

As for what “getting married actually means,” I think you’ll find there’s a lot of different definitions floating around. One could even say it depends on what it means to those getting married? Not everyone considers it a holy pact, and there are many practical reasons one might decide to form such a union.

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and there are many practical reasons one might decide to form such a union.

The tax breaks?

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Handman said:

and there are many practical reasons one might decide to form such a union.

The tax breaks?

That’s part of it sure, but there are plenty of benefits, from big things like health coverage, to things you’d never think of like dry cleaning discounts (if Seinfeld is to be believed).

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moviefreakedmind said:

The only fun part about weddings is thinking about how meaningless all those sappy, lovey-dovey vows will be in four years when the bride and groom get divorced.

That man could depress a hyena.

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DominicCobb said:

Handman said:

and there are many practical reasons one might decide to form such a union.

The tax breaks?

That’s part of it sure, but there are plenty of benefits, from big things like health coverage, to things you’d never think of like dry cleaning discounts (if Seinfeld is to be believed).

Being in a relationship merely for financial discounts… what an emotionally hollow, unfulfilling farce. Might as well change one’s vows from “til death do us part” to “until my field of fucks runs out.”

Ridiculous.

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chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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I’m gonna have to side with chyron on this one.

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chyron8472 said:

DominicCobb said:

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and there are many practical reasons one might decide to form such a union.

The tax breaks?

That’s part of it sure, but there are plenty of benefits, from big things like health coverage, to things you’d never think of like dry cleaning discounts (if Seinfeld is to be believed).

Being in a relationship merely for financial discounts… what an emotionally hollow, unfulfilling farce. Might as well change one’s vows from “til death do us part” to “until my field of fucks runs out.”

Ridiculous.

I never said merely, though it is a fairly important and practical reason for getting married, much moreso than just to form an imaginary pact (which also ‘forces’ you to stay with someone you could end up hating, only because you don’t want to embarrass yourself to your friends and family).

If not for the legal benefits, I’d think marriage to be a nearly pointless and archaic construct. But that’s just me. My point is that marriage can be different things to different people. Just because you see it one way doesn’t mean every else does, nor should they conform their lives to what is ultimately just your opinion of it.

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I wasn’t saying that anyone who gets a divorce just because “it’s not working out” is a bad person, I was only saying that the concept of marriage in general probably isn’t for them.

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chyron’s got it right.

The blue elephant in the room.

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I wasn’t saying that anyone who gets a divorce just because “it’s not working out” is a bad person, I was only saying that the concept of marriage in general probably isn’t for them.

I’ll just reiterate my point, marriage as a “concept” isn’t as strictly defined as you make it out to be, nor should it be. I know you’re not saying they’re bad people, but many judge those who get divorced harshly, simply because they don’t hold the same narrow definition of marriage as they do. No one should have their relationship be judged on someone else’s rigid terms.

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I’ve never encountered anyone who has judged someone harshly for a divorce, unless they were the cause (infidelity etc.). It’s something to feel bad about, because it is a failure, no way around that. But failure is what makes us stronger and wiser.

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Jesus Christ. Plenty of people get divorced because they couldn’t make their marriage work. It’s not always an easily avoidable thing like failure to communicate. I also the concept of, “Don’t like your marriage and want it to end? Try to make it work for a few more decades!” We should stop considering marriage to be some sacred bond because it fucking isn’t. That said, I do agree that most people probably shouldn’t be getting married anyway because most divorces do happen because people rushed or are incapable of compromise, but to generalize that they’re all like that is absurd.

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