wow , I go away for a day and come back to this . I said it several times and I will say it again , this is a place to stand up for those who have been harassed , not to debate whether or not they have been harassed . and I have repeatedly stated , as have the mods , that if you want to state your opposition , then feel free to start your own thread ,yet some people keep ignoring this , even to the point of being banned or locked out of the thread to prevent further derailment ,and then I see they are back again . Then I see disparaging remarks about this being a " safe space " ,I can’t see these behaviors as anything but harassment and it seems like some people are reinforcing the case that the issue indeed exists . If this is not toxicity , then I don’t know what is .