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QAnon is one of the least harmful conspiracies I’ve ever heard. Whole lot of wishful thinking that’s appealing to people who don’t like Democrats.
The blue elephant in the room.
They always are until some barking loon acts upon the misinformation as has happened with Pizza gate.
Where were you in '77?
Exactly. No such thing as a harmless conspiracy theory anymore.
How is it harmless to think something that’s totally delusional and untrue? The Virginia Tech shooter thought he was a reincarnated Jesus or something like that. It may sound like a delusion that wouldn’t affect anyone else, but untreated psychootics can be very dangerous to themselves and others. Even if they aren’t crazy, they still believe in total bullshit. How is being at odds with reality harmless? Why do you always want to play the apologist for right wing craziness like this or Alex Jones? It makes it hard not to lump this shit in with the right wing in general when you refuse to condemn any of it.
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QAnon is one of the least harmful conspiracies I’ve ever heard. Whole lot of wishful thinking that’s appealing to people who don’t like Democrats.
I disagree. A lot of the rhetoric coming out of the ‘Great Awakening’ is worryingly militant. This is more than just hoping Democrats get arrested, they truly believe that the government is filled to the brim with Satanic Deep State operatives. They truly believe that this Deep State is running child sex slave camps and assassinating people left and right (Seth Rich, JFK). They aren’t just idiots online, they see themselves as warriors in the ongoing civil war within our government. Here’s a snippet from the top post of all time over on the Great Awakening subreddit.
To President Trump and Q, and those at the sharp end of this war, whilst not American citizens, please know that we outsiders are in awe of you and those who stand beside you. We know that this has not been attempted before. We see the gravity of what is unfolding, and the courage and spirit it took to engage such an enemy. It is clear that this international cabal still has the ability to inflict pain and death, and no hesitation to do so. It is hidden, clever, evil, and well dug in. Lest we forget, this is a real war and good people are dying. Please know that there are many out here who understand your sacrifices and the risks being taken on our behalf. Thank you and God bless you all. WWG1WGA!
Living in an echo chamber like that seems like a recipe for radicalization, don’t you think?
They’re horrified over imaginary child slave camps and not by immigrant kids being locked up in real camps?
Where were you in '77?
It makes it hard not to lump this shit in with the right wing in general when you refuse to condemn any of it.
I think Mrebo just pretends to be rational. The fact that half the time I have no idea what he’s saying just shows it only works half the time at most.
Floyd Lee Corkins, James Hodgkinson, Kermit Gosnell, Antifa. Fun to demonize movements or thoughts based on the actions of the crazies or potential crazies.
I know someone who has bought into QAnon and I recognize how it is so much wishful thinking. I’ve told them so and joked with them about the need for a foil hat.
mfm, your post lacks self-awareness. Believing in idiosyncratic things that people think are enormously wrong is your wheelhouse. Again, I usually don’t get all frothy when I think something is wrong, skim milk being a notable exception.
The blue elephant in the room.
It makes it hard not to lump this shit in with the right wing in general when you refuse to condemn any of it.
I think Mrebo just pretends to be rational. The fact that half the time I have no idea what he’s saying just shows it only works half the time at most.
The kneejerk reaction to make issues personal is what makes this thread particularly dumb.
The blue elephant in the room.
Nobody ever went packing heat into a pizza parlor because they believe Elvis is still alive and living with Bigfoot in Saskatchewan though. 😉
Where were you in '77?
I wouldn’t bet on that…
The blue elephant in the room.
It makes it hard not to lump this shit in with the right wing in general when you refuse to condemn any of it.
I think Mrebo just pretends to be rational. The fact that half the time I have no idea what he’s saying just shows it only works half the time at most.
The kneejerk reaction to make issues personal is what makes this thread particularly dumb.
That post contained a truth and an assumption that may or may not be true. You defend a lot of crazy shit so maybe there’s another reason you do it but you haven’t said why so we’re left to make guesses.
Floyd Lee Corkins, James Hodgkinson, Kermit Gosnell, Antifa. Fun to demonize movements or thoughts based on the actions of the crazies or potential crazies.
I don’t know who any of those are other than Antifa and anyone who believes that Q shit is crazy.
All it takes is one Trumpy retweet or just parroting what these Q’balls have to say, and they’ll get a huge amount of credibility.
Where were you in '77?
It makes it hard not to lump this shit in with the right wing in general when you refuse to condemn any of it.
I think Mrebo just pretends to be rational. The fact that half the time I have no idea what he’s saying just shows it only works half the time at most.
The kneejerk reaction to make issues personal is what makes this thread particularly dumb.
That post contained a truth and an assumption that may or may not be true. You defend a lot of crazy shit so maybe there’s another reason you do it but you haven’t said why so we’re left to make guesses.
You can engage in a sincere way and ask questions instead of saying whatever nonsense leaps to mind.
Floyd Lee Corkins, James Hodgkinson, Kermit Gosnell, Antifa. Fun to demonize movements or thoughts based on the actions of the crazies or potential crazies.
I don’t know who any of those are other than Antifa and anyone who believes that Q shit is crazy.
I’m not surprised as those names/incidents don’t get the same play in the media and certainly not on your side of the aisle.
I think a good half the people here are crazy. But like I said, I know someone (who isn’t a bad/crazy person) who believes in it. When you know somebody who believes a crazy thing you’re generally apt to not be quite so harsh, I wager even you might understand.
In any event, I certainly wouldn’t have the reaction of ‘OMG we should kill these dangerous crazy people who threaten civilization,’ proposed by mfm that you go along with.
The blue elephant in the room.
I agreed we should kill these people?
If you’re referring to my blog comment I just meant he was writing a blog instead of posting on a forum because he was just making random posts about stuff that was annoying him.
If you know someone that believes the Q thing, they might not be bad, but they’re definitely crazy. Or at the very least super gullible.
It makes it hard not to lump this shit in with the right wing in general when you refuse to condemn any of it.
I think Mrebo just pretends to be rational. The fact that half the time I have no idea what he’s saying just shows it only works half the time at most.
The kneejerk reaction to make issues personal is what makes this thread particularly dumb.
That post contained a truth and an assumption that may or may not be true. You defend a lot of crazy shit so maybe there’s another reason you do it but you haven’t said why so we’re left to make guesses.
You can engage in a sincere way and ask questions instead of saying whatever nonsense leaps to mind.
You can do the same. You just hide your disdain better than I do.
You don’t have to be crazy to post here, but it helps! 😉
I don’t think anyone is seriously advocating liquidating conspiracy believers. The moon landing hoax crowd and the flat Earthers test my patience though.
Where were you in '77?
The moon landing hoax crowd and the flat Earthers test my patience though.
But not the geocentrists? 😉
I actually had to look that one up. Hope I never run into one.
Where were you in '77?
Why am I even shocked by this sort of thing anymore?
Were these people in a deep coma during the Cold War? I think I can hear Ronald Reagan spinning in his grave.
All those 50’s paranoia flicks about Russian’s infiltrating our society aren’t quite as funny anymore.
Where were you in '77?
But it’s okay now because the Russians aren’t commies anymore.
Also, Antifa is good.
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Why do you always want to play the apologist for right wing craziness like this or Alex Jones?
Just who were you talking to here? You posted right after Frink. Frink may be many things, but if you think he is an apologist for Alex Jones, you have to be drunk.
I agreed we should kill these people?
If you’re referring to my blog comment I just meant he was writing a blog instead of posting on a forum because he was just making random posts about stuff that was annoying him.
Me saying I don’t think a conspiracy theory is dangerous vs mfm calling for violence…and you find my post so objectionable you have to engage in personal attacks.
If you know someone that believes the Q thing, they might not be bad, but they’re definitely crazy. Or at the very least super gullible.
Average level of crazy, gullible in believing QAnon stuff certainly.
It makes it hard not to lump this shit in with the right wing in general when you refuse to condemn any of it.
I think Mrebo just pretends to be rational. The fact that half the time I have no idea what he’s saying just shows it only works half the time at most.
The kneejerk reaction to make issues personal is what makes this thread particularly dumb.
That post contained a truth and an assumption that may or may not be true. You defend a lot of crazy shit so maybe there’s another reason you do it but you haven’t said why so we’re left to make guesses.
You can engage in a sincere way and ask questions instead of saying whatever nonsense leaps to mind.
You can do the same. You just hide your disdain better than I do.
In the last couple pages, mfm engaged in apologia for Antifa violence and called for violence based on what people think. I know he is being hyperbolic, at least on the second matter, but that sets the scene for then fretting about how other people might possibly inspire crazies to be violent.
QAnon is a two-bit conspiracy theory that involves a belief that Mueller is secretly working on behalf of Trump and will soon arrest Clinton, Obama, Comey, etc. I don’t think there’s a compelling argument that it’s dangerous - juat that it is silly and wrong. Your criticism of me for saying so is absurd.
I experience a whole lot less disdain than you. And whether by nature or nurture, I don’t hold grudges.
The blue elephant in the room.
Why do you always want to play the apologist for right wing craziness like this or Alex Jones?
Just who were you talking to here? You posted right after Frink. Frink may be many things, but if you think he is an apologist for Alex Jones, you have to be drunk.
I was talking to Mrebo.
Also in response to Mrebo, I was obviously fucking joking. You have mentioned multiple times that I’m calling for violence and death and I think that’s absurd. If you can’t tell that my “I’m usually against violence but I wish the state would execute everyone that believes in Qanon” was a literal call for action, then you have the situational awareness of a brick. You can say that it’s callous that I don’t value the lives of people dumb enough to believe in QAnon (and I don’t, and I won’t pretend that I’d shed any tears if they all keeled over tomorrow) but you can’t say that I’m calling violence. Not unless you’re okay with being totally dishonest. I know you throw in a line about how I’m hyperbolic, but your implication that my rhetoric will inspire people to violence is absurd. I have no following, and the political violence I’m in favor of isn’t even actually happening with any kind of regularity.
And Antifa never killed anybody. Like I said earlier, the people using violence against Nazis aren’t automatically as bad as the Nazis. To claim that they are is a false equivalence.
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