I just want to interject in here, bless you Warbler. Whatever thread you are on is better for it. You never overstate yourself, you always speak reasonably, I don't know. I always like seeing you around.
And I agree with Shim (if I translated correctly that these arguments always end up circular and repetitive, since new people are always poking in and few people read the whole backlog. I know I didn't. I had no idea this all started over a comment on homosexuality. Now I do. Now my last long post seems over-abstracted, but I'll leave it.
Moving on - I hate it when you are a little sick, but not sick enough to really stay home from work. Just sick enough to be unhappy. Dang.
Why Anakin really turned to the dark side: "Anakin, You're father I am" - Yoda "No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!" - Anakin
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*touchy people disclaimer* some or all of the above comments are partially exaggerated to convey a point, none of the comments are meant as personal attacks on anyone mentioned or reference in the above post