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Post #1230960

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Collipso
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * SPOILER THREAD *
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2-Aug-2018, 2:04 PM

Mocata said:

Collipso said:

Possessed said:

And where did he pick up all those moves he used in Return of the Jedi that he didn’t learn from Yoda in esb? I believe he… Dare I even say it… Figured them out himself?

such as? i can only think of the mind trick that was in the movie to basically tell the audience that Luke had grown from novice in SW to master in RotJ. other than that…

New powers in ROTJ were force choke and force mind trick… which he learned by copying others. In the established screen canon he doesn’t even learn to sword fight. He never learns speed / jump powers either. Or the telekinesis. OR the power to sense Vaders feelings. What exactly is the problem suddenly? This thread is just all over the place. Rey is learns too quickly. Luke was out of character. The Phantom Menace was a good film. Jeez.

Luke saw Ben mind tricking the stormtrooper back in Mos Eisley and Ben told him that “the force can have a strong influence on the weak minded”, and the meaning i got from that is that while the concept of a mind trick isn’t really hard to get, one must be really in tune and have a master’s control of the force to be able to perform it. that is why Luke mind tricking Bib Fortuna at Jabba’s Palace means he’s grown from novice to master. regarding Luke choking the guards: i think that force choke is just another way to use telekinesis, something he figured out by himself in a time of need in TESB.

in the OT it’s left apparent that one’s progression in sword fighting goes along with one’s progression of the mastery of the force. i guess that makes sense, given that the more you master the force the faster your reflexes are going to be, so yeah.

and Luke was in his physical peak during the OT and we watched Yoda push him to his physical limit while in Dagobah; so that, alongside the use of the force, makes me not see any sort of problem in him doing martial arts jumps and stuff.