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Post #1230948

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yotsuya
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * SPOILER THREAD *
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2-Aug-2018, 1:26 PM

DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

People seem to think Rey’s journey is done and over with after TLJ, which is just absurd. The idea that Rey’s rejection of Kylo has more in common with Luke’s actions in ROTJ over ESB is just a silly reach for an argument (any argument) that in this case is on incredibly shaky ground. Rey conquered neither Snoke or Kylo (not even close). Like Luke in ESB, she ran in unprepared and gave Snoke everything he wanted. The only reason she came out alive was because Kylo’s actions, which, unlike ROTJ, weren’t because of the hero’s pleading (which didn’t work in this case).

No need to go further in depth than that, I’ve said it all before.

Well, I disagree. What demons does she have to overcome either literally or figuratively, that she hasn’t already? How can she grow? Luke passed on the batton to her showing none of a master’s reservations, being confident she will become the next Jedi. Even Yoda makes a statement that echos the one he made to Luke in ROTJ, where he says there’s nothing in the tree, that the girl Rey doesn’t already possess, which should be taken both literally, and figuratively, I believe. TLJ’s ending feels more like the conclusion of a trilogy to many for a reason, and this is examplified by the way Rey is put on a pedestal having passed her trials, and saved the day.

Um… it is clear from the conversation between Yoda and Luke that Rey needs more training. Very clear. Yes, Luke is confident she will become the next Jedi, but not on her own. And when Yoda mentions the contents of the tree it is because he knows it is empty. I would say Rey is padawn level at this point. Having the powers but none of the wisdom of a Jedi. This did not feel even remotely like the conclusion to anything. Everything is up in the air. The arc for this movie for each character finished, but the overall arc the story is taking is hanging out there waiting for completion. TLJ left me with questions about if the First Order is going to succeed in taking over the Republic? If enough worlds and system will fight back. If the legends of the Jedi and Luke’s sacrifice on Crait will make a difference and relight the spark. Will this spill into galactic war or will this stay confined? Will the Jedi and Republic rise from this?

How you get this being a finale with Rey a full Jedi on a pedestal is beyond me.