I just want to interject in here, bless you Warbler. Whatever thread you are on is better for it. You never overstate yourself, you always speak reasonably, I don't know. I always like seeing you around.

And I agree with Shim (if I translated correctly

that these arguments always end up circular and repetitive, since new people are always poking in and few people read the whole backlog. I know I didn't. I had no idea this all started over a comment on homosexuality. Now I do. Now my last long post seems over-abstracted, but I'll leave it.

Moving on - I hate it when you are a little sick, but not sick enough to really stay home from work. Just sick enough to be unhappy. Dang.

And bless you, Warbler. Everywhere you go.