If Poe had said something along the lines of ‘Retreat, nothing can stop it now!’, then it would have been clear that Finn was acting out of pure unthinking hatred for the First Order.
“The cannon is charged, it’s a suicide run! All craft, pull away!”
“Retreat, Finn! That’s an order.”
“Finn? It’s too late!”That doesn’t imply a suicide run could not be successful. It might only imply Poe is not willing to sacrifice the few people they have left. Additionally unlike Poe Finn knows the technology, and obviously feels he has a chance of taking out the weapon.
Dre, come on man. Do you like having the same argument over and over? Because I don’t, I really really don’t. I mean I guess I was asking for it here, but I was trying to demonstrate a separate and specific point (i.e. what NeverarGreat personally thought would clarify the scene for him is basically already there in slightly different wording).
No, because NeverarGreat used the words “nothing can stop it now”. This is not implied in the movie. In fact the movie sets up Finn as th expert knowing about the miniature Death Star tech. It’s not me adding confusion to the intentions of the scene. It’s the movie.
It’s you interpreting it the wrong way because you don’t like the movie. Simple as that really. Obviously you can turn the table and say I’m just doing the reverse. Difference is the intention of the scene is clearly the way I’m interpreting it. And you can’t just ignore that.
The problem being, and this kinda goes back to what I was saying earlier today, is that no one is criticizing this movie on its own terms, they’re making terms up. The more reasonable critique here would be “they didn’t make it clear enough in this scene that Finn wasn’t going to make it.” Instead people hyperbolize and act as if the alternate interpretation was the intented one, and criticize it on those terms. So the critique goes from the reasoned “clarity problems” to the downright outlandish “Rose is a terrible character because she doomed the Resistance and ruined Finn’s heroism,” which is a critique that (in my opinion) has little relevance to what’s actually going on with the mechanics of this story.
To clarify my own post here, I think NeverarGreat was making an argument on that more reasonable side.
I know what the intention of the scene is, and I’m saying exactly what you say, I should say, namely that it is poorly executed. Because of this the scene may be confusing to some, as are the character’s motivations. Just because you and I understand RJ’s intentions doesn’t make it so for everyone else, nor does it imply it is reflected well in the film, or that other interpretations are not possible.
To be clear, I’m not saying you’re not saying that. I was speaking in broader terms.