chyron8472 said:

Calm down. Seriously.

Um…sure.

You could also get over being afraid of gay people. Seriously.

Calm down. Seriously.

Ok you never said you were afraid of gay people. Obvious hyperbole. But yes I’m judging you for being uncomfortable around “overly-effeminate” men. It’s a complete overreaction to something that doesn’t affect you at all.

TV’s Frink said:

Jeebus said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

Handman said:

So traps are guys who dress like girls, but it’s crazy to think that makes them a transvestite? I never heard the “trap” term until four or five years ago.

Do you even know the difference?

Traps are guys who dress convincingly like attractive girls.

Wrong. “Traps” are not guys who dress convincingly like attractive girls. “Transvestites” are (typically) guys who dress like girls. “Traps” are derogatory terms for a subset of transvestites who apparently dress like attractive girls just to humiliate people like you who are uncomfortable around gay people.

You’re confusing the definitions.

How so?

Defamatory: “deceptive,” “fooling,” “pretending,” “posing,” “trap,” or “masquerading”
Gender identity is an integral part of a person’s identity. Do not characterize transgender people as “deceptive,” as “fooling” or “trapping” others, or as “pretending” to be, “posing” or “masquerading” as a man or a woman. Such descriptions are inaccurate, defamatory and insulting. (See “passing” and “stealth” as problematic terms above.)

JEDIT: That refers to transgenders rather than transvestites but I thought the concept (re: trap) was the same.

Yeah, that was my issue. Replace “transvestites” with “transgenders,” and that would pretty much fix it. But the bigger issue here is that I don’t think that’s the way Handman or Chyron are using the term.

chyron8472 said:

I don’t need to justify myself to you.

So don’t.

Jeebus said:

TV’s Frink said:

Jeebus said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

Handman said:

So traps are guys who dress like girls, but it’s crazy to think that makes them a transvestite? I never heard the “trap” term until four or five years ago.

Do you even know the difference?

Traps are guys who dress convincingly like attractive girls.

Wrong. “Traps” are not guys who dress convincingly like attractive girls. “Transvestites” are (typically) guys who dress like girls. “Traps” are derogatory terms for a subset of transvestites who apparently dress like attractive girls just to humiliate people like you who are uncomfortable around gay people.

You’re confusing the definitions.

How so?

Defamatory: “deceptive,” “fooling,” “pretending,” “posing,” “trap,” or “masquerading”
Gender identity is an integral part of a person’s identity. Do not characterize transgender people as “deceptive,” as “fooling” or “trapping” others, or as “pretending” to be, “posing” or “masquerading” as a man or a woman. Such descriptions are inaccurate, defamatory and insulting. (See “passing” and “stealth” as problematic terms above.)

JEDIT: That refers to transgenders rather than transvestites but I thought the concept (re: trap) was the same.

Yeah, that was my issue. Replace “transvestites” with “transgenders,” and that would pretty much fix it. But the bigger issue here is that I don’t think that’s the way Handman or Chyron are using the term.

But how can you use the term “trap” without it being derogatory?

The very idea that someone is transgender because they want to humiliate a straight man is offensive no matter what term is used anyway.

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

I don’t need to justify myself to you.

So don’t.

Shut up then. Please.

Fine.

TV’s Frink said:

Trap is a derogatory term. Don’t use it.

Do you agree?

TV’s Frink said:

Jeebus said:

TV’s Frink said:

Jeebus said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

Handman said:

So traps are guys who dress like girls, but it’s crazy to think that makes them a transvestite? I never heard the “trap” term until four or five years ago.

Do you even know the difference?

Traps are guys who dress convincingly like attractive girls.

Wrong. “Traps” are not guys who dress convincingly like attractive girls. “Transvestites” are (typically) guys who dress like girls. “Traps” are derogatory terms for a subset of transvestites who apparently dress like attractive girls just to humiliate people like you who are uncomfortable around gay people.

You’re confusing the definitions.

How so?

Defamatory: “deceptive,” “fooling,” “pretending,” “posing,” “trap,” or “masquerading”
Gender identity is an integral part of a person’s identity. Do not characterize transgender people as “deceptive,” as “fooling” or “trapping” others, or as “pretending” to be, “posing” or “masquerading” as a man or a woman. Such descriptions are inaccurate, defamatory and insulting. (See “passing” and “stealth” as problematic terms above.)

JEDIT: That refers to transgenders rather than transvestites but I thought the concept (re: trap) was the same.

Yeah, that was my issue. Replace “transvestites” with “transgenders,” and that would pretty much fix it. But the bigger issue here is that I don’t think that’s the way Handman or Chyron are using the term.

But how can you use the term “trap” without it being derogatory?

The very idea that someone is transgender because they want to humiliate a straight man is offensive no matter what term is used anyway.

I agree, but not all definitions have to do with being transgender. Maybe they’re using it to refer to men that cosplay as female characters. The term sucks because every single website attempting to define it has a different definition, who knows what they got when they googled it.

Jeebus said:

TV’s Frink said:

Jeebus said:

TV’s Frink said:

Jeebus said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

Handman said:

So traps are guys who dress like girls, but it’s crazy to think that makes them a transvestite? I never heard the “trap” term until four or five years ago.

Do you even know the difference?

Traps are guys who dress convincingly like attractive girls.

Wrong. “Traps” are not guys who dress convincingly like attractive girls. “Transvestites” are (typically) guys who dress like girls. “Traps” are derogatory terms for a subset of transvestites who apparently dress like attractive girls just to humiliate people like you who are uncomfortable around gay people.

You’re confusing the definitions.

How so?

Defamatory: “deceptive,” “fooling,” “pretending,” “posing,” “trap,” or “masquerading”
Gender identity is an integral part of a person’s identity. Do not characterize transgender people as “deceptive,” as “fooling” or “trapping” others, or as “pretending” to be, “posing” or “masquerading” as a man or a woman. Such descriptions are inaccurate, defamatory and insulting. (See “passing” and “stealth” as problematic terms above.)

JEDIT: That refers to transgenders rather than transvestites but I thought the concept (re: trap) was the same.

Yeah, that was my issue. Replace “transvestites” with “transgenders,” and that would pretty much fix it. But the bigger issue here is that I don’t think that’s the way Handman or Chyron are using the term.

But how can you use the term “trap” without it being derogatory?

The very idea that someone is transgender because they want to humiliate a straight man is offensive no matter what term is used anyway.

I agree, but not all definitions have to do with being transgender. Maybe they’re using it to refer to men that cosplay as female characters. The term sucks because every single website attempting to define it has a different definition, who knows what they got when they googled it.

Again, why would you be referring to cosplayers when you use the word “transvestite” in the comparison?

Unless Handman thinks of cosplayers as transvestites, which I highly doubt. But who the hell knows.

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

I don’t need to justify myself to you.

So don’t.

Shut up then. Please.

Fine.

TV’s Frink said:

Trap is a derogatory term. Don’t use it.

Do you agree?

I agree with the consensus. If they do, then it is. If they do not, then it is not. GLAAD is not the consensus here.
I already don’t use the word either way anyway.

Except you did. But fine.

JEDIT: Your other posts regarding men actually feeling trapped is nonsense btw. But I’ll move on.

TV’s Frink said:

Jeebus said:

TV’s Frink said:

Jeebus said:

TV’s Frink said:

Jeebus said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

Handman said:

So traps are guys who dress like girls, but it’s crazy to think that makes them a transvestite? I never heard the “trap” term until four or five years ago.

Do you even know the difference?

Traps are guys who dress convincingly like attractive girls.

Wrong. “Traps” are not guys who dress convincingly like attractive girls. “Transvestites” are (typically) guys who dress like girls. “Traps” are derogatory terms for a subset of transvestites who apparently dress like attractive girls just to humiliate people like you who are uncomfortable around gay people.

You’re confusing the definitions.

How so?

Defamatory: “deceptive,” “fooling,” “pretending,” “posing,” “trap,” or “masquerading”
Gender identity is an integral part of a person’s identity. Do not characterize transgender people as “deceptive,” as “fooling” or “trapping” others, or as “pretending” to be, “posing” or “masquerading” as a man or a woman. Such descriptions are inaccurate, defamatory and insulting. (See “passing” and “stealth” as problematic terms above.)

JEDIT: That refers to transgenders rather than transvestites but I thought the concept (re: trap) was the same.

Yeah, that was my issue. Replace “transvestites” with “transgenders,” and that would pretty much fix it. But the bigger issue here is that I don’t think that’s the way Handman or Chyron are using the term.

But how can you use the term “trap” without it being derogatory?

The very idea that someone is transgender because they want to humiliate a straight man is offensive no matter what term is used anyway.

I agree, but not all definitions have to do with being transgender. Maybe they’re using it to refer to men that cosplay as female characters. The term sucks because every single website attempting to define it has a different definition, who knows what they got when they googled it.

Again, why would you be referring to cosplayers when you use the word “transvestite” in the comparison?

Unless Handman thinks of cosplayers as transvestites, which I highly doubt. But who the hell knows.

I assumed it was because they both dress up in women’s clothes (or something like that), but I can’t speak for him.

This discussion’s in danger of growing stale. I’m taking it to strange, new places.

“Tr8p.”

“Tr8p.”

“Tr8p.”

“Tr8p.”

“Tr8p.”

i don’t think people aren’t going to go up to a transvestite and say “hey you’re a trap”.

traps = transvestites. the only difference is that ‘tranvestite’ is the word for what those people are, and ‘trap’ is what men that thought they were something they biologically weren’t call them.

Jesus fucking christ you guys are some whiny shits. 3 pages of fighting just because somebody fucking asked what a word they didn’t understand meant? And they weren’t even advocating it’s use either, they were simply asking what it meant since it had already been said. Holy shit. I should have just let you people think I died in the woods and never came back. Fuck this place.

chyron8472 said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

This discussion’s in danger of growing stale. I’m taking it to strange, new places.

“Tr8p.”

Nope. Laryngeal prominence.

suspiciouscoffee said:

Hi everyone. It seems my facetious post that was only inspired by some [cough] taxing content elsewhere online has turned this thread into a dumpster fire. I have no answers for anyone and hope everyone just drops this topic altogether. Thank you.

Well I for one will do so.

^ Yep, that’s about right.

Possessed said:

Jesus fucking christ you guys are some whiny shits. 3 pages of fighting just because somebody fucking asked what a word they didn’t understand meant? And they weren’t even advocating it’s use either, they were simply asking what it meant since it had already been said. Holy shit. I should have just let you people think I died in the woods and never came back. Fuck this place.

You got room in them woods for one more?