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Nicolas Cage Joins ‘Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse’
https://t.co/nigVpnEVCg

“Get over violence, madness and death? What else is there?”

Also known as Mr. Liquid Jungle.

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SilverWook said:

I enjoyed the movie, but I must confess one sequence gave me Phantom Menace flashbacks. Frink could probably seamlessly splice it into TRM if he ever did an SE of it. 😉

I said the same thing to my friend! It was eerily similar.

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Ant-Man and the Wasp (2018)

Hilarious. Great follow up to the first film and a welcome break after the fallout of Infinity War.

Marvel’s Luke Cage Season 2 (2018)

Far more consistent throughout than the first season was. It also successfully managed to get me hyped for Iron Fist season 2, which is quite a feat after Fist’s first season. In terms of the cast, Alfre Woodard and Reg E. Cathey both turned out great performances. A solid season through and through.

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Well, that’s ridiculous. The obscene tweets were just bad jokes meant to shock you for views, made nearly a decade ago (Geez, Twitter’s been around for awhile…). He shouldn’t have lost his job, given he’s responsible for the best movies the MCU has produced, and is very clearly a different man now.

As long as we condemn everyone who’s done or said something questionable in all the time they’ve been around, there’ll be no one left in Hollywood. No one is infallible.

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Wow they already fired him? I just read some of his tweets a few hours ago, and although they were disgusting, wasn’t it obvious that those were just bad jokes? Or do some people think that an actual pedo would write publicly that he rapes little boys? I mean that’s clearly a reason for a public apology, but I wouldn’t personally fire him - unless they have some proof that those were not just bad jokes

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suspiciouscoffee said:

  1. The tweets were gross and should have been deleted. Also, the sheer volume of tweets raises red flags, as well as the exact contents of some of the ones I’ve seen.

  2. Mike Cernovich and his army of alt-right shitbags started their smear campaign against Gunn to “prove” their moral superiority over “the left” which prominent Hollywood figures like Gunn supposedly represent, and Disney should not have done anything on the whims of a Pizzagate crackpot like Cernovich.

Both are true.

Yeah pretty much. The thing that’s ultimately most dumb is how old the tweets are - if Disney actually cared he wouldn’t have had a position to be fired from.

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if Disney actually cared he wouldn’t have had a position to be fired from.

That’s what makes this so much harder to swallow. It’s not like these tweets were ever a secret.

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Handman said:

if Disney actually cared he wouldn’t have had a position to be fired from.

That’s what makes this so much harder to swallow. It’s not like these tweets were ever a secret.

Which basically means either one of two things, that Disney has just succumbed to the wishes of alt-right trolls who got mad because Gunn made fun of Trump and Ben Shapiro, or that there was some other reason they wanted to fire him and they’re using this as an excuse (which raises a whole bunch of other questions).

No matter what, Disney’s sending a message for sure, but it’s a very confusing one, to say the least.

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I read another thing, that this violates some kind of contract he’s signed. The details, of course, we wouldn’t know. There’s the possibility they weren’t actively aware of it, or brushed it off in the hopes no one would notice. They let Lasseter go recently as well (a whole other can of worms), sending the signal that no matter what you’ve done, your job isn’t safe.

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DominicCobb said:

Handman said:

if Disney actually cared he wouldn’t have had a position to be fired from.

That’s what makes this so much harder to swallow. It’s not like these tweets were ever a secret.

Which basically means either one of two things, that Disney has just succumbed to the wishes of alt-right trolls who got mad because Gunn made fun of Trump and Ben Shapiro, or that there was some other reason they wanted to fire him and they’re using this as an excuse (which raises a whole bunch of other questions).

No matter what, Disney’s sending a message for sure, but it’s a very confusing one, to say the least.

Disney fired Roseanne for her one terrible tweet that got publicity while her twitter history had many more. This James Gunn thing seems pretty consistent.

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James Gunn defended her firing as well.

Here’s his response to his controversy.

  1. Many people who have followed my career know when I started, I viewed myself as a provocateur, making movies and telling jokes that were outrageous and taboo. As I have discussed publicly many times, as I’ve developed as a person, so has my work and my humor.

    — James Gunn (@JamesGunn) July 20, 2018
    2. It’s not to say I’m better, but I am very, very different than I was a few years ago; today I try to root my work in love and connection and less in anger. My days saying something just because it’s shocking and trying to get a reaction are over.

    — James Gunn (@JamesGunn) July 20, 2018
    4. For the record, when I made these shocking jokes, I wasn’t living them out. I know this is a weird statement to make, and seems obvious, but, still, here I am, saying it.

    — James Gunn (@JamesGunn) July 20, 2018
    5. Anyway, that’s the completely honest truth: I used to make a lot of offensive jokes. I don’t anymore. I don’t blame my past self for this, but I like myself more and feel like a more full human being and creator today. Love you to you all.

    — James Gunn (@JamesGunn) July 20, 2018

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Handman said:

James Gunn defended her firing as well.

I don’t know how I feel about either. Their tweets are bad, but it doesn’t seem to me that they’re bad people and their contributions to movies and television I think have been a net positive.

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pleasehello said:

DominicCobb said:

Handman said:

if Disney actually cared he wouldn’t have had a position to be fired from.

That’s what makes this so much harder to swallow. It’s not like these tweets were ever a secret.

Which basically means either one of two things, that Disney has just succumbed to the wishes of alt-right trolls who got mad because Gunn made fun of Trump and Ben Shapiro, or that there was some other reason they wanted to fire him and they’re using this as an excuse (which raises a whole bunch of other questions).

No matter what, Disney’s sending a message for sure, but it’s a very confusing one, to say the least.

Disney fired Roseanne for her one terrible tweet that got publicity while her twitter history had many more. This James Gunn thing seems pretty consistent.

Not actually. Roseanne had a history of tweets that no one at Disney apparently cared about. While the show was airing, she continued tweeting crazy stuff. It wasn’t until she tweeted something that crossed the line that she was let go. She was fired for a tweet she made the same exact day she tweeted it. An important difference.

Meanwhile, they dragged their feet on Lasseter, and had no problem employing Johnny Depp just recently. They’re all over the place, to say the least.

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DominicCobb said:

pleasehello said:

DominicCobb said:

Handman said:

if Disney actually cared he wouldn’t have had a position to be fired from.

That’s what makes this so much harder to swallow. It’s not like these tweets were ever a secret.

Which basically means either one of two things, that Disney has just succumbed to the wishes of alt-right trolls who got mad because Gunn made fun of Trump and Ben Shapiro, or that there was some other reason they wanted to fire him and they’re using this as an excuse (which raises a whole bunch of other questions).

No matter what, Disney’s sending a message for sure, but it’s a very confusing one, to say the least.

Disney fired Roseanne for her one terrible tweet that got publicity while her twitter history had many more. This James Gunn thing seems pretty consistent.

Not actually. Roseanne had a history of tweets that no one at Disney apparently cared about. While the show was airing, she continued tweeting crazy stuff. It wasn’t until she tweeted something that crossed the line that she was let go. She was fired for a tweet she made the same exact day she tweeted it. An important difference.

Meanwhile, they dragged their feet on Lasseter, and had no problem employing Johnny Depp just recently. They’re all over the place, to say the least.

I think Gunn and Roseanne are similar in that Disney doesn’t vet their twitter activity, nor do they care until it gets publicity, whether it’s an old or new tweet. Roseanne’s new “Planet of the Apes” tweet got publicity. Gunn’s old “pedo jokes” got publicity. Only then does Disney take action to try and distance themselves.

You’re right in that Lasseter and Depp are different. Depp is the most upsetting and confusing of all as he’s easily the worst offender. By recent Hollywood standards you’d think the man would never work again. But he’s still getting big parts in major studio films.

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pleasehello said:

DominicCobb said:

pleasehello said:

DominicCobb said:

Handman said:

if Disney actually cared he wouldn’t have had a position to be fired from.

That’s what makes this so much harder to swallow. It’s not like these tweets were ever a secret.

Which basically means either one of two things, that Disney has just succumbed to the wishes of alt-right trolls who got mad because Gunn made fun of Trump and Ben Shapiro, or that there was some other reason they wanted to fire him and they’re using this as an excuse (which raises a whole bunch of other questions).

No matter what, Disney’s sending a message for sure, but it’s a very confusing one, to say the least.

Disney fired Roseanne for her one terrible tweet that got publicity while her twitter history had many more. This James Gunn thing seems pretty consistent.

Not actually. Roseanne had a history of tweets that no one at Disney apparently cared about. While the show was airing, she continued tweeting crazy stuff. It wasn’t until she tweeted something that crossed the line that she was let go. She was fired for a tweet she made the same exact day she tweeted it. An important difference.

Meanwhile, they dragged their feet on Lasseter, and had no problem employing Johnny Depp just recently. They’re all over the place, to say the least.

I think Gunn and Roseanne are similar in that Disney doesn’t vet their twitter activity, nor do they care until it gets publicity, whether it’s an old or new tweet. Roseanne’s new “Planet of the Apes” tweet got publicity. Gunn’s old “pedo jokes” got publicity. Only then does Disney take action to try and distance themselves.

Yes there are certainly similarities, but the justification is a lot weaker this time. There were plenty of people who were mad about Roseanne coming back because of things she said in the past. Disney only did something when she gave them reason to in the present day, with no reference made to anything from the past in their decision.

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And who was doing a deep dive for dumb stuff he said over a decade ago? Oh right, people who don’t like his political opinions. Well, thanks a lot ass*oles. GOTG3 is probably going to suck now. And I just bought Vol. 2 today.

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I’d love to see Taika Waititi take the reigns for Vol. 3. I feel his style would mesh really well with the tone of the GOTG movies.

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John_ said:

I’d love to see Taika Waititi take the reigns for Vol. 3. I feel his style would mesh really well with the tone of the GOTG movies.

Ehh I keep hearing people suggest this but I disagree. Ragnarok and GOTG are tonally similar in a broad sense, but ultimately Waititi’s voice is quite distinct from Gunn’s, and I’d really just prefer him to do the next Thor if anything.

As for Vol. 3 without Gunn, I’m not going to worry too much yet. While it’s a shame he won’t be able to round out his trilogy (though honestly IW already kinda hurt it’s cohesiveness anyway), more likely than not they’ll still be working off his script to some extent. Depending on who they hire as a replacement, it could end up being just fine.

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Handman said:

As long as we condemn everyone who’s done or said something questionable in all the time they’ve been around, there’ll be no one left in Hollywood. No one is infallible.

Well, then Rian Johnson should be worried right now. Back in 2011 he made joke about the Star Wars OT Blu rays. He tweeted “will Lucasfilm release the original cuts or just the cartoon versions?” or something like that.

Just kidding. Of course that tweet has not the same political magnitude like Gunns or Roseanne Barrs tweet. But as you said: No one is infallible.

Rogue One is redundant. Just play the first mission of DARK FORCES.
The hallmark of a corrupt leader: Being surrounded by yes men.
‘The best visual effects in the world will not compensate for a story told badly.’ - V.E.S.
‘Star Wars is a buffet, enjoy the stuff you want, and leave the rest.’ - SilverWook

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Really it just comes down to Disney has an image to uphold and now that people are making a stink about these tweets, it’s easier and faster for them to just nuke the site from orbit and not deal with any potential political fallout from either side.

It’s sad, but it’s the state of the world today.

Keep Circulating the Tapes.

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Guess the whole putting out R rated films under the Touchstone Pictures banner isn’t going to fool anyone anymore. With the Fox acquisition all but a done deal, what are they going to do with Deadpool? Or Family Guy for that matter?

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Deadpool is a billion dollar franchise. I wouldn’t be afraid anything bad is going to happen to it.