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Post #1226409

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moviefreakedmind
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Date created
17-Jul-2018, 11:21 AM

Mrebo said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Mrebo said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Mrebo said:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/16/politics/donald-trump-putin-helsinki-summit/index.html

Thoughts:

Conservatives got mad at Obama for blaming America and being overly conciliatory to hostile nations (including Russia), so this reverse is darkly amusing.

Oh my God. Is that really how you’re interpreting this? People aren’t mad at Trump for being conciliatory to Russia. They’re mad at him for being treasonous! Even if you disagree with that assessment, don’t fucking lie about why they’re mad at him!

The target of my comment were conservatives who support Trump. You can tell that because that is who I wrote about. I said nothing about the people who are mad at Trump. You can tell that because I wrote nothing about them. I’m saying that Trump supporters are showing inconsistency. You can tell that because that was what I actually wrote.

You were implying a false equivalence to the criticisms of Obama and Trump. The criticisms of those two men in relation to this are totally different.

Do we want more Cold War?

Do we want an illegitimate president? Trump has been alienating all of our allies since he took office so why do you suddenly care about diplomatic relations?

Okay. Strange that an open-ended question about a realistic possibility is met with accusations.

It’s obvious that that was your implication. If I say that my next door neighbor is a murderer and then follow that up with the statement, “Do I really want the police prowling around my neighborhood?” then that implies that I’m at least considering that it’d be better to leave the murderer in place rather than face that situation.

There are areas of our country that don’t want the police around even where there are murders going on. These are complex issues.

That’s because the police are constantly beating the shit out of innocent people or outright murdering them. That wasn’t even my point, I was just using it as an example of what you were obviously implying.

Obviously we need to face the Russia situation. I’m not sure what we do, whether we go back to a Cold War situation or what. Events have been pushing us in that direction well before Trump. And yes, the politics now makes it more difficult. I’m not talking about Trump, just what can our country do about Russia.

What does that have to do with anything? You’re redirecting the discussion away from Trump’s actions again.