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Post #1225575

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DominicCobb
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Is Star Wars catering to girls now?
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13-Jul-2018, 3:55 AM

LexX said:

DominicCobb said:

LexX said:

When I saw TLJ the second time it was all too clear when half of the resistance seemed to be women to the point it just didn’t feel believable, just transparent. The contrast is so stark compared to the OT it’s ridicilous. If you’re really at war and showed people inside battleships there wouldn’t be 50% women. It’s not wrong, it’s not right, that’s just the way it is.

That’s not “the way it is,” that’s just plain fucking dumb. This is a fantasy movie, what it’s like in the “real world” shouldn’t matter.

What doesn’t feel believable is (in a world where sexism supposedly doesn’t exist) 99% of the rebellion and empire are male. There’s no good explanation for that.

LOL, calm down teenager.

Cute, but, of course, inaccurate.

If to you 50% men 50% women in every field should be the way for everything, then you’re the one being sexist by forcing things based on gender. Like ZkinandBonez and Jay said, if people are free to choose to anything they want, 50-50 is the least likely scenario to be in. But if you force this 50-50 everywhere, including a fantasy film which btw has been made and watched here on Earth, it doesn’t feel believable and it’s sexist because forcing. And that is my opinion. The genre doesn’t matter nor what you are being forced to as a viewer. Kinda like in Transformers they force some Chinese connection just to cater Chinese audience. But they aren’t stupid, even they hated it. Forcing things is just movies trying to cater and pander audiences and that is what I hate in modern film. The more they do it, the more transparent it is. It can only take one scene to get you pulled out of a movie, it doesn’t matter what it contains. You can argue about this and I’m sure you will since you don’t do anything else here.

“Forced diversity” is a whole load of bullshit. Believe it or not the real world is actually quite diverse! Anything less than that is simply exclusion, whether forced or simply due to laziness or unconscious bias.

As for the comparison to Transformers and China, oddly enough China is actually one of the biggest world superpowers and has the largest population of any country on the planet, so I don’t think it’s that odd to spend some time there in a globe-trotting movie. As for “forced,” I mean sure you can make the argument that the plot or whatever is unnaturally forced to go out of the way to China (don’t know, haven’t seen). This is where the comparison to Star Wars breaks down though, because there’s nothing “forced” about the casting of a background role. This is honestly a baffling opinion to hold, or it would be baffling if it wasn’t obvious where it was coming from.

As for what else I do on here, fair, though I’m not exactly sure what your lofty contributions have been. I’m all ears though.

I also don’t think the OT was that far off from real military. In SW Leia had even the biggest role in the alliance and then there were like 30 pilots and other crew members in Yavin who were male, seemed realistic. Then on Hoth there were at least 3 women + Leia in the control room, again that’s pretty good. And in ROTJ Mon Mothma gave an important briefing and there were female pilots too. The Empire and FO are another case which I think they should be.

The OT rebels had a lobster admiral which as far as I can tell is neither “realistic” nor “not far off from real military.”