mfm, somehow you’re arguing against what I didn’t post.
Forgive me for not understanding the most incomprehensible person in this thread.
This didn’t start because you criticized Trump. This started with your accusation that Jay supports Trump and/or is unclear for not saying bad things about Trump when discussing a policy choice.
That isn’t why I said that. I said he is obviously pro-Trump to an extent because he deflects criticism of Trump to other people that are often irrelevant to the criticism almost all the time. I gave you many examples of how this is the case but you ignored all of them, which is a trend I’m seeing a lot in this thread.
I emphasized that obviously I’m not saying you shouldn’t criticize Trump. Do it to your heart’s content. But don’t demand others do so or insist they’re pro-Trump if they don’t. That is what we’re talking about.
You’re obviously saying that too much or too harsh of criticism of Trump is somehow objectionable. I had a similar argument with Warbler when he was more concerned about the feelings of Catholics than the protests against Pope John Paul II over his role in the child-rape scandals in the Roman Catholic Church. He felt that too harsh or too mean of a criticism of that man for allowing priests to rape children repeatedly was inappropriate because it would offend Catholics. I didn’t call him a Pope John Paul II supporter but I think I did call him a Pope John Paul II apologist or something. There’s a difference between the two. I didn’t say Jay was a Trump supporter or even that he was pro-Trump. I said he had an obvious pro-Trump bias, and he does. I have an anti-Trump bias, but I don’t pretend otherwise.
The idea that every discussion of current policy boils down to being pro-Trump or anti-Trump is the obsession I’m addressing.
I never said that. The point I was addressing was that redirecting every bad thing Trump does to someone else is a form of Trump apologetics. It really shouldn’t even be controversial. A lot of liberals did it with Obama. Whenever he’d do something totally illiberal there was always an excuse for it from center-right Democrats pretending to be liberals. Now it’s happening with Trump.