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But really, you might consider that you’re the only one who seems to be making a big deal out of this here. Guy acted like a dick. It got picked up by the news (unsurprising considering Starbucks has been in the news lately). End of story.
dude, that’s not at all why mfm is so dedicated to the discussion. he’s simply stating that 99% of people have, at some point, laughed at something that could be considered “acting like a dick” to the “offender”. it’s as simple as that.
Ok.
I mean, I certainly don’t remember ever coming close to finding humor in someone mocking a person who stutters, but ok.
I mean, I certainly don’t remember ever coming close to finding humor in someone mocking a person who stutters, but ok.
Well, then get off your fuckin’ high horse.
The Person in Question
Writing a person’s name in “stutter” is clever? What world am I even living in?
But yeah just sounds like you are bitter.
I don’t understand why you would refuse to acknowledge that there’s a tiny bit of humor in this story. Even if you don’t think it’s funny, I don’t get why it’s so shocking to you that this pointless, waste-of-time story might make someone chuckle a little bit in spite of the fact that it’s about a mean barista. But yeah, sure, I’m bitter. I don’t like it when people pretend to care about other people. I’d rather just admit that they don’t care, because I always respect honesty more than moralizing bullshit.
Just because the barista was trying to make a joke doesn’t make it funny, it just makes him a dick.
Does it really make him a dick? Are you really going to tell me that you’ve never once in your life been mean to someone else? Are you a dick? Are you a “terrible person” as Frink put it? (Speaking of Frink, I’ve seen him be pretty mean to people on this forum. I don’t think he’s a terrible person because of it.) For all we know, which is nothing other than that some guy got made fun of at Starbucks, this barista is a totally fucking pleasant person that maybe just made a poor joke because he was miserable at his shitty, degrading customer-service job. Maybe he’s a really mean dude, but perhaps he’s really charitable and spends his time volunteering at homeless shelters and helping people. Would he be a terrible person or a dick then? Maybe he really is just a giant pile of sub-human shit that no one would miss if he died tomorrow. We don’t fucking know. Maybe Sam, the customer, was really mean to the barista. Or maybe he’s the nicest guy in the world. We don’t fucking know. It’s not like the barista poured dish soap in the guy’s drink. It’s not like I’m laughing at someone for getting run over. I’m not even laughing at anyone, really. I just thought it was a kind of funny story. This is one of the reasons why I avoid other people. You can’t even chuckle at some distant, inconsequential event anymore without people finding it upsetting.
mfm is Starbucks barista sock confirmed.
You got me. I guess I should never try to make a nuanced analysis of anything ever again. Is that the message?
The Person in Question
But really, you might consider that you’re the only one who seems to be making a big deal out of this here. Guy acted like a dick. It got picked up by the news (unsurprising considering Starbucks has been in the news lately). End of story.
I’m making a big deal out of your reaction to my reaction of the story. I’ll admit that. I’ve got no problem with that. I make big deals out of things that piss me off.
The Person in Question
I mean, I certainly don’t remember ever coming close to finding humor in someone mocking a person who stutters, but ok.
Well, there is that famous scene in “A Fish Called Wanda” (although I have to admit, I found it a bit uncomfortable).
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I mean, I certainly don’t remember ever coming close to finding humor in someone mocking a person who stutters, but ok.
Well, there is that famous scene in “A Fish Called Wanda” (although I have to admit, I found it a bit uncomfortable).
Granted. But that’s also a movie.
Writing a person’s name in “stutter” is clever? What world am I even living in?
But yeah just sounds like you are bitter.
I don’t understand why you would refuse to acknowledge that there’s a tiny bit of humor in this story. Even if you don’t think it’s funny, I don’t get why it’s so shocking to you that this pointless, waste-of-time story might make someone chuckle a little bit in spite of the fact that it’s about a mean barista. But yeah, sure, I’m bitter. I don’t like it when people pretend to care about other people. I’d rather just admit that they don’t care, because I always respect honesty more than moralizing bullshit.
Just because the barista was trying to make a joke doesn’t make it funny, it just makes him a dick.
Does it really make him a dick? Are you really going to tell me that you’ve never once in your life been mean to someone else? Are you a dick? Are you a “terrible person” as Frink put it? (Speaking of Frink, I’ve seen him be pretty mean to people on this forum. I don’t think he’s a terrible person because of it.) For all we know, which is nothing other than that some guy got made fun of at Starbucks, this barista is a totally fucking pleasant person that maybe just made a poor joke because he was miserable at his shitty, degrading customer-service job. Maybe he’s a really mean dude, but perhaps he’s really charitable and spends his time volunteering at homeless shelters and helping people. Would he be a terrible person or a dick then? Maybe he really is just a giant pile of sub-human shit that no one would miss if he died tomorrow. We don’t fucking know. Maybe Sam, the customer, was really mean to the barista. Or maybe he’s the nicest guy in the world. We don’t fucking know. It’s not like the barista poured dish soap in the guy’s drink. It’s not like I’m laughing at someone for getting run over. I’m not even laughing at anyone, really. I just thought it was a kind of funny story. This is one of the reasons why I avoid other people. You can’t even chuckle at some distant, inconsequential event anymore without people finding it upsetting.
mfm is Starbucks barista sock confirmed.
You got me. I guess I should never try to make a nuanced analysis of anything ever again. Is that the message?
I think your problem throughout this discussion is that you’re looking for a message.
Writing a person’s name in “stutter” is clever? What world am I even living in?
Earth-666, mfm’s favourite universe.
This is a strange pattern of argument that occurs in the “culture” threads and Star Wars threads.
Person A gives an opinion. Person B calls that opinion irredeemably horrible. Person A explains why that isn’t the case. Person B repeats that it is irredeemably horrible. Person A tries again to get Person B to see some shade of grey. Person B asks why Person A cares so much and is making such a big deal out of it. And all the person did was express an opinion and defend it when challenged. It’s a relentless shaming of Person A that I don’t understand.
If it goes on long enough, someone will declare its all semantics.
The blue elephant in the room.
It’s all semantics.
It’s all semantics.
Whoever currently holds the championship belt for Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo needs to give it to you pronto.
The blue elephant in the room.
It’s true that there could be some missing context. I know of a couple of restaurants where rude waiters are part of the appeal. Or maybe the stuttering guy was being an ass and this was the barista’s clumsy form of revenge. Or maybe the barista was having a bad day - his bike was stolen or something. Or what the heck, maybe he’s just a prick. I wouldn’t make fun of someone’s disability, but 49% of voters seem to think it’s ok for the president to do it.
Is he really disabled? I’d be offended by that kind of language more than being made fun of. Maybe that’s just me. It probably is.
That’s interesting… you’re offended by it being called a disability, but not by it being mocked? You can be tricky to navigate sometimes 😃
As to whether stuttering is considered a disability, I have to admit that I didn’t know if it was or not. But a brief Google search seems to indicate that it is. at least the American Institute for Stuttering sure thinks so. The Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) also seems to be applicable to stutterers, so while I have no horse in this race and would be happy to agree with you to avoid offending, apparently as an educator I am legally obligated to consider it a disability. Sorry.
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Writing a person’s name in “stutter” is clever? What world am I even living in?
Earth-666, mfm’s favourite universe.
I forget, is that the Hebrew Marvel Universe or the Latin one?
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I actually kind of like this barista, to be honest. At least we all know how much of an asshole he is. Everyone else pretends to be a decent person, but at least this fucker is a proud pile of garbage unlike everyone else.
sheesh.
I actually kind of like this barista, to be honest. At least we all know how much of an asshole he is. Everyone else pretends to be a decent person, but at least this fucker is a proud pile of garbage unlike everyone else.
sheesh.
It’s ok, he didn’t mean it.
The blue elephant in the room.
What? I like it when people make it easier for me to know what they’re really like.
The Person in Question
In this instance, sure. But I don’t know if he’s a total dick. He probably is, but who cares? Everyone else is too.
It seems like you care quite a bit actually.
I care about the hypocrisy of people’s reaction to this ludicrous story. That doesn’t mean I care about the people in the story.
I’m not sure to what “hypocrisy” you refer.
Writing a person’s name in “stutter” is clever? What world am I even living in?
Earth-666, mfm’s favourite universe.
I forget, is that the Hebrew Marvel Universe or the Latin one?
Latin sounds creepier than Hebrew, so. . . .
dude, that’s not at all why mfm is so dedicated to the discussion. he’s simply stating that 99% of people have, at some point, laughed at something that could be considered “acting like a dick” to the “offender”. it’s as simple as that.
Just because (supposedly) everyone does it doesn’t make them not a dick when they do it.
This is a strange pattern of argument that occurs in the “culture” threads and Star Wars threads.
Person A gives an opinion. Person B calls that opinion irredeemably horrible. Person A explains why that isn’t the case. Person B repeats that it is irredeemably horrible. Person A tries again to get Person B to see some shade of grey. Person B asks why Person A cares so much and is making such a big deal out of it. And all the person did was express an opinion and defend it when challenged. It’s a relentless shaming of Person A that I don’t understand.
If it goes on long enough, someone will declare its all semantics.
I’m glad you’ve pointed this out, because you’ve exposed the real issue at the heart of this. Person B is rarely (if ever at all) saying something is “irredeemably horrible.” It’s almost always just Person A overreacting and assuming they are.
It’s not just semantics, it’s people imagining things that aren’t really being said.
What I really need to do is purge whatever remaining delusional fantasy I have that I’ll be able to understand you people. That’s real point I’ve gleamed from this conversation.
good grief.
I know of a couple of restaurants where rude waiters are part of the appeal.
How could rude waiters be part of the appeal at a restaurant?