Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo — Page 783

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I can understand having a rule about how long one can look at someone.

Really? What’s the correct length of time allowed then?

Not exactly sure but certainly longer than 5 seconds. Perhaps 30 seconds?(note I am not saying that just beaue someone stares for less time should automatically mean they don’t get in trouble: context, circumstances, etc would depend)

30 seconds? Ha. Stare at your watch for 30 seconds. See how long it really is.

it is 30 seconds long.

You’ve missed the point again.

If you say so. Nonetheless, 30 seconds is 30 seconds.

If you stared at a woman for 20 seconds you’d creep her right the fuck out.

Maybe, it depends upon the women, the circumstances, context, etc.

Of course. And a lot of dudes think they know what the woman thinks and what the circumstances is. And they’re wrong a lot of the time. Talk to a few women about this and you’ll hear lots of stories about dudes who are oblivious to how they’re making the woman feel.

Maybe that is something that needs to be talked about. Maybe these men should be taught about the circumstances and etc, and rules should be make regarding same, instead of simply setting a hard and fast time limit as small as 5 five seconds (which is what I originally thought Netflix had done).

Well since they didn’t do that I’m not sure why it’s necessary to continue to debate it, but again the point is don’t stare at people unless you want them to feel uncomfortable.

chyron8472 said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I can understand having a rule about how long one can look at someone.

Really? What’s the correct length of time allowed then?

Not exactly sure but certainly longer than 5 seconds. Perhaps 30 seconds?(note I am not saying that just beaue someone stares for less time should automatically mean they don’t get in trouble: context, circumstances, etc would depend)

30 seconds? Ha. Stare at your watch for 30 seconds. See how long it really is.

it is 30 seconds long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTlVc_hKi2M
“People do not have internal chronometers.”

true.

Staring at someone for 5 full seconds is longer than long enough when given no reason to stare.

I was under the mistaken impression that

1. the rule existed(it does not)
2. the rule gave no consideration to the reason for staring.

Jay said:

TV’s Frink said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

I’ve stared at people for 5+ seconds before. Unless I’m actively communicating with them, I, a gross creep, fully admit to having creepy intentions. I’m trying to be better, but then again I still have lots of pictures of some of my cute/attractive friends on my phone that they aren’t aware of, so I’m not doing so well.

EDIT: Why yes, this post is a cry for help.

It doesn’t matter if you don’t have creepy intentions. It’s very easy to assume that you do regardless.

Intent absolutely matters, especially if it can put you on the path to unemployment. The feelings of the “victim” don’t cut it. Emphasis should be placed on intent and actual harm done to the person, not how they felt about it in the moment.

Human interaction is messy, and attempting to codify basic interactions like eye contact is absurd. I’m sure facial expressions as microaggressions will be here soon, if they’re not already.

Victim said:

“Someone made a mean face at me and I felt uncomfortable. I was unable to verbalize my feelings at the time like an adult would, so I internalized my trauma and now bring it to HR so you can deal with it for me, because it’s really me who’s the emotionally stunted one here.”

We’re basically training people to be socially inept. No more people-watching. Don’t get caught observing human behavior. Keep your face in your phone. If you become confused by the strange world of fellow humans, your employer will give you guidelines on how to behave if you accidentally make eye contact with someone and how to apologize if they feel threatened.

It’s all ridiculous and I feel sorry for kids growing up thinking this is normal. It’s not.

Well spend some time staring at all your female coworkers and let me know how it goes.

Seriously though Jay, do you not understand the difference between talking to someone and staring at them? Why the hell are you staring at them to begin with? I’m not saying to stop talking to people. Just don’t act like a creep. It’s really not that hard.

And it’s hard to take any post seriously that uses the word “microaggresion.” Might as well call someone who was harassed a snowflake while you’re at it.

moviefreakedmind said:

I don’t condone staring, but setting fascist a time-limit is dehumanizing and insulting, and I’d quit whatever company imposed such an arbitrary restriction on me.

Ok but they didn’t do that. And five seconds is a loooooooooong time to stare at someone. They’re making a point - don’t be a creep. And clearly they need to make that point because some people somehow don’t get it. As evidence, I present this thread.

You guys are amazing. I’d like you to go out and actually do this shit and see what happens and see how far your posturing gets you then.

Five seconds spent staring at someone is an eternity if they know you’re looking. I don’t know what else to say.

At least five shot dead at a newspaper. Just wonderful.

http://www.capitalgazette.com/news/annapolis/bs-md-gazette-shooting-20180628-story.html

well, thank god we have a leader that never promotes hate against the press! and one that is fighting gun massacres!!

oh wait