Hockey Talk — Page 6

Author: Shimraa
Time: 6-Aug-2004 4:08 PM
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yeah i heard about that.

Author: GundarkHunter
Time: 7-Aug-2004 7:01 AM
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Of course, it's only good news if the season actually happens. I'm so sick and tired of hearing about how hard done by the players are going to be if the lockout actually happens. The worst thing that will happen is that a strike will likely spell the death of the NHL as we know it. Unlike other professional sports, the NHL doesn't have a large fan base to begin with (compared with MLB, NFL and NBA); it can't afford to lose fans over a labour dispute.

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Author: Shimraa
Time: 7-Aug-2004 7:52 PM
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yep, the problem in my opinion is that the players are getting too greedy

Author: Bossk
Time: 9-Aug-2004 6:23 AM
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Sounds like all sports in general. A rookie tight end for the Cleveland Browns named Kellen Winslow is holding out on going to training camp because he thinks he deserves a US$40 million contract for however many years. The Browns are offering him $22 M for those years. How can a rookie think he deserves that much when he hasn't even played professionally yet?

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Author: Shimraa
Time: 9-Aug-2004 9:13 PM
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its just crasy.

Author: Itchy
Time: 9-Aug-2004 9:21 PM
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no offense to the coyotes but you guys can have hull. He's over the hill as evidenced by his last season in detroit. Still got that great shot, but all he does is cherry pick and wouldnt back check to save his life.

Author: Itchy
Time: 24-Aug-2004 4:50 PM
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Hey guys

Just got back from Columbus where the US played Canada in a pre world cup exhibition game. I gotta say the US looked really good, outpassing, outhustling, and outshooting the Canadians by almost 2-1. The score was 3-1, but that doesnt really reflect the play on ice. I know it's only an exhibition game, but the US really dominated last night.

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Author: motti_soL
Time: 26-Aug-2004 11:34 PM
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DETROIT RED WINGS!!!!!!!!!!!

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Author: GundarkHunter
Time: 31-Aug-2004 3:52 PM
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Go WHA! Death to the NHL!

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Author: Bossk
Time: 1-Sep-2004 5:12 AM
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Yeah, has there been a decision on the NHL season yet or is it still up in the air?

Author: Klingon_Jedi
Time: 1-Sep-2004 10:21 PM
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Go San Jose Sharks!!!

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Author: motti_soL
Time: 2-Sep-2004 1:22 AM
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decision on the NHL season? am i missing out on something?

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Author: GundarkHunter
Time: 2-Sep-2004 6:14 PM
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Negotiations have stalled, yet again; both sides have walked away from the table, which means only an act of God will enable the season to start on time.

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Author: Shimraa
Time: 3-Sep-2004 8:47 PM
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i swear the NHLPA are acting like a bunch of children. they are making no compremises, and it is pissing me, the owners, some of the players, and most of the fans off. they are like the 3 year olds in a store:

- "NO I WANT THAT ONE"
- "but we cant get that we dont have the money"
- "YOUR LIEING ITS IN YOUR PURSE"
- " no i am not here look for yourself,"
- "I DONT BELEIVE THAT YOU HAVE A SERCET POCKET SOME WHERE"
- "no i dont, what about this one"
- "I WANT THAT ONE"

That is literally how they are acting, they want a free market where teams can pay players as much as they want, the fact is that the league cannot afford to do that, because in a system like that only like 3 teams would have the money to get the good players and be able to contend, and that would leave you with 20 -25 other teams that would be losing money.( infact that is the current state of the NHL) its stupid, only one of the other 3 major sports have that system, thats baseball, and what do you get in baseball, teams like the yankees. baseball can in away afford to have free market system cus they got the money, the NHL doesnt have that amount of money. in baseball the stadiums can hold upto 40000 ppl, and they have about 140 games, in hokcey you have 80 games, and areas that hold about 19000 ppl. you dont have the same sort of money flowing in.

Author: GundarkHunter
Time: 4-Sep-2004 6:13 AM
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Not to mention that hockey just doesn't have the same kind of money flowing in from TV licencing and PPV. Hockey simply doesn't have a large enough fan base in North America to pay the kind of salaries that players are asking for.

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Author: Shimraa
Time: 4-Sep-2004 8:27 PM
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i know what you mean. but another point look at the NFL they are HANDS DOWN the most successfull, and sercure league out of the 4 major sports, and what system do they have. nun other then the system the NHL, and the owners want to put into place.

Author: GundarkHunter
Time: 5-Sep-2004 4:59 PM
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For further proof that a lot of NHLers are a bunch of self absorbed crybabies, check this out:

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Frustrated USA sniper Brett Hull drops the 'F-bomb'

ST. PAUL, Minn. (CP) - A winner of the World Cup of Hockey tournament has yet to be crowned but Brett Hull already is assured an award - Most Unhappy Player.

Hull, a healthy scratch for Team USA's win over Slovakia, showed up for practice Sunday to find he had been assigned the same green sweater as other Friday scrubs, and he didn't like it one bit. He left the ice 10 minutes before his teammates, again declined interview requests and was out of the Xcel Energy Center in a hurry.

The third-leading goal scorer in NHL history could not have expected to be a spare part in what is probably his last major international tournament for the United States, for whom he's performed beyond the call of duty. To say he's frustrated is putting it mildly.

"Got a minute to talk to reporters, Brett?" Hull was asked in a corridor outside the dressing room. "What would I have to talk about?" he replied.

"Fans want to know how you're doing," said the reporter.

"I don't give a f*** about the fans anymore," said Hull.

End of conversation.

Anyone else think the coach of Team USA was trying to teach Hull a little humility?

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Author: Shimraa
Time: 5-Sep-2004 5:59 PM
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hull is a peace of shit, never liked him, never will. A good player that cared about the team more then himself would have worked his ass off in practice and made sure that he was the last one off the ice at the end. the fact is that hull is used to being the #1 guy always getting good treatment by everyone cause he was the guy they relied on. Now on team USA he isn't the only star anymore, most of the players on the team are just as good if not better then him And so now he can get benched if he is an ass, and not workin hard, and he dosnt like it. But too bad ship up or ship out that is what ron willison is telling him.

Author: Shimraa
Time: 14-Sep-2004 4:55 PM
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if it wasnt offical b4 it has now been written in stone. the Undisputed champion of hockey nations is CANADA. despite having a population of 30 million Canada has now won the last 6 major internation tornements. this just shows that we are the kings of hockey.

Author: Luke Skywalker
Time: 14-Sep-2004 5:17 PM
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WORD!!

we are the champions my friend......

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Author: Mackey256
Time: 14-Sep-2004 5:55 PM
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Go Flyers!!!!!!!!!!

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Author: Shimraa
Time: 14-Sep-2004 6:21 PM
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i am sry but your a fuckin idoit. why do you have to rain on our parade.

Author: Luke Skywalker
Time: 14-Sep-2004 6:45 PM
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... and we'll keep on fighting till the end....

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Author: GundarkHunter
Time: 14-Sep-2004 8:47 PM
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Canada wins the WCoH final 3-2 against Finland! Woo-Hoo!!!!!!!!!

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Author: Itchy
Time: 14-Sep-2004 9:44 PM
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Originally posted by: Shimraa
i know what you mean. but another point look at the NFL they are HANDS DOWN the most successfull, and sercure league out of the 4 major sports, and what system do they have. nun other then the system the NHL, and the owners want to put into place.

But the NFL players also make the least amount of money in relationship to revenue of the four major sports. The NFL makes tons.... the TV deals alone cover all players salaries and then some.

Another thing, NO, that's right NO player contract in the NFL is guaranteed. Teams can dump a player or trade him without notice and without severance, and they don't have to honor any remaining money in a player's contract.

So, as far as the NFL is concerned, I have no problems with a player holding out or refusing to play "for the team", when the teams don't give a damn about them. There is no duty to the fans or any of that crap.

NFL'ers should get paid more when their corporation is raking it in and they're getting killed on the field. The average career of a running back: 3-5 years. They should be getting paid the most. Not these cry baby baseball players like A-Rod, who would go on the IR if he stubbed his toe.