Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo — Page 780

I think people here think of you as a Trump apologist, not a Trump supporter.

Mango said:

I was referring to Jetrell Fo, who at the time that I made that post had just been banned for defending Trump.

You made that post a whole year after he has been banned.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/jun/04/incel-movement-literary-classics-behind-misogyny

I don’t like how some segments of the left are trying to analyze these “incels” (involuntary celebates: AKA, people incapable of attracting a sexual partner that then blame everyone but themselves) as though there’s a rational element informing their ideology, if you can even call it an ideology. The article I linked to is basically blaming, in part, the plots of literature that involve sex or frustration related to a male character’s attempts to pursue a woman for these incel assholes. I don’t like blaming fine art for the actions of stupid people.

I have a much simpler, and probably more accurate, explanation. These socially inept people, that are probably pretty unstable to begin with, are pissed off that no one on the planet wants anything to do with them, and they blame everyone else for this because it’s easier to do that then to blame one’s self. Something tells me that these people aren’t sophisticated enough to have read Hamlet, and if even they did I strongly suspect that they weren’t capable of even comprehending the old English language. The outlets that probably fuel their bullshit are the kind of pseudo-intellectuals online with misogynist rhetoric like Jordan Peterson (who has stated that enforced monogamy would solve these obviously demented people’s problems) or Stephan Molyneux (who has blamed literally all of mankind’s problems on women before). I know those people, and others like them, aren’t particularly known to anyone fortunate enough to not have been exposed to their internet subculture, but they are very popular in the internet subculture that the so-called incels seem to be drawn to.

I also have an equally simple solution for these guys, even though they’ll never actually do this. Maybe if these incels would stop posting on creepy internet forums about how mean women are unwilling to fuck them, they might have a better shot at a sexual relationship. It isn’t that hard.

Today the Court should issue its ruling on the travel ban.

Travel ban is how it’s usually described since that’s what it does. But yeah the travel ban seen as discriminating against Muslims. I think there will be at least 6 votes to uphold it but we’ll see. If not today then later this week.

Edit: upheld, but only 5-4

The two liberal justices I thought most likely to uphold the ban, Breyer and Kagan, wrote their own dissent that they basically didn’t have enough information to decide whether there was unlawful discrimination against Muslims. They would have sent back to lower court to investigate how many waivers and exemptions were granted, which in their view could make the ban not unlawful. They’re trying to take a pragmatic approach, but I don’t think their reasoning makes much sense.

Sotomayor and Ginsburg’s dissent straight up found religious discrimination.

The majority opinion finally and directly rejects the decision that upheld Japanese internment. It’s technical not overruled because the decision isn’t about that issue, but anybody who says it’s still technically good law will look even more foolish, if that were possible.

Court today struck down as a violation of free speech California’s requirement that pregnancy centers provide information on availability of state services, including abortion.

Haven’t made my mind up about the reasoning but my favorite sentence in Breyer’s dissent is “Really?”

I prefer to call the muslim ban the muslims from arbitrarily-selected countries ban.

flametitan said:

moviefreakedmind said:

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/jun/04/incel-movement-literary-classics-behind-misogyny

I don’t like how some segments of the left are trying to analyze these “incels” (involuntary celebates: AKA, people incapable of attracting a sexual partner that then blame everyone but themselves) as though there’s a rational element informing their ideology, if you can even call it an ideology. The article I linked to is basically blaming, in part, the plots of literature that involve sex or frustration related to a male character’s attempts to pursue a woman for these incel assholes. I don’t like blaming fine art for the actions of stupid people.

It’s a mixture of them being assholes, and a bit of entitlement. Literature is probably not where I’d go if I wanted to blame our culture, though. The sheer amount of films where the man Save the Day and Gets the Girl is usually what I see blamed for male entitlement, not books.

I don’t really care much for that scapegoat either. I think most people in general are really entitled in this culture. The incels basically amp it up to feeling entitled to other people, which is the next step up in entitlement. If any cultural phenomenon is motivating them I doubt that it’s artistic media and is probably the kind of internet pseudo-intellectuals that I mentioned.

I also have an equally simple solution for these guys, even though they’ll never actually do this. Maybe if these incels would stop posting on creepy internet forums about how mean women are unwilling to fuck them, they might have a better shot at a sexual relationship. It isn’t that hard.

yes, they need to do this too. And maybe not advocate for the legal right to rape, something I’ve seen on some incel boards.

They’re a silly bunch, aren’t they? And they really wonder why no one wants them.

TV’s Frink said:

If Breyer included a sigh, it will be confirmed.

Or a subtle jab at Christian poetry.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-judge-immigration-20180626-story.html

Big win for the ACLU and the United States in general.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/26/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-joe-crowley-new-york-14-primary/index.html

HUGE win for progressives against corporate democrats. A 10-year representative got beaten by a Democratic Socialist. I’m really excited by this trend. Similar candidates are getting selected even in conservative states like Nebraska.