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Projecting films and Home Cinema

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Hi gang

Does anyone here enjoy projecting films at home instead of using a standard tv? Or perhaps you have a cinema room in your house with a big screen for projecting onto and also a sweet surround sound set up?

This thread is for people to discuss all things projection be it old style 35mm or newer modern digital LCD DLP OR LED projectors.

What do you love doing about it? What’s frustrating about it? What kind of equipment do you have and have you got any pictures of this in action?

I hope to soon put on a show of my own for a few friends of… you guessed it… star wars.

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About 15 years ago, I was into front projection heavily and spent a lot of time and money on the hobby. During that period, 720p was as good as it got at anything resembling a reasonable consumer price point. There were some CRT-based projectors that could do 1080p, but they were the size of a small car and expensive to set up and maintain. I think the best projector I owned was the Sharp XV-Z12000 DLP; I’d never seen a display that could be dialed in so precisely (it offered full control of both primary and secondary colors in the user menu, which was unheard of at the time, and absolutely nailed D65 and Rec 709 after calibration).

There was very little HD content available via cable, however. I had a D-Theater deck that I got free as part of a dealer promo, but ended up selling it because I knew 1080i on tape was a dead-end format, so I spent most of my time watching DVDs. I had a 92" screen (80" x 45"), which is fairly conservative by projection standards, and the limitations of 480p material are readily apparent even at that size. The best discs at the time looked very good when upscaled and projected, but any flaw in the transfer at all was immediately noticeable. I often spent more time critiquing the picture than watching the movie.

Since the image quality was frequently lacking at that size, I decided I wouldn’t be happy until 1080p projectors were affordable and HD content was available on disc, so I sold my entire setup (which consisted of an Anthem AVM-20, a couple Rotel amps, and M&K THX speakers) and got out of the hobby. I’ve been getting by with a 50" plasma and more conservative 2-channel setup since then, but I think front projection and source materials have both improved enough that I could get back into a much larger image and be happy with it. I suppose I’d have to get used to elevated black levels again, but I think the sheer impact of having such a large display coupled with a powerful sound system more than makes up for that one shortcoming.

I’ll probably be moving in a few months, so I’ll be making sure the new place has enough space to accommodate a projector for sure. I was hoping laser-based LED projectors would’ve been more affordable by now, but even a bulb-based 4K model is more than comparable to a theatrical projector in terms of overall fidelity. Have to jump in at some point and just enjoy it.

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This is something I’ve always wanted, but have never gotten the opportunity to get into. We had a few REAR-projection TVs, but they were just awful. They were the only way to get a large screen without dedicating a whole room to it at the time.

Here’s what we had originally. I played N64 games on this:

Here’s an HD set we eventually got around 2005 or 2006. There’s no HDMI support, so eventually we got screwed. The HD part broke long before the whole thing died by 2012:

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Handman said:

This is something I’ve always wanted, but have never gotten the opportunity to get into. We had a few REAR-projection TVs, but they were just awful. They were the only way to get a large screen without dedicating a whole room to it at the time.

Here’s what we had originally. I played N64 games on this:

LOL. Didn’t N64s come with instructions not to use them with big screen TVs?

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Jay that all sounds so interesting and exactly why I started the thread thanks for the input. I get the feeling if I had been born 20 years earlier than I was I would of loved to be a projectionist of 35mm. Thanks for that motivation to try it.

And Handman that looks so cool the first picture very vintage lol.

I have quite a few people interested in my idea now and I’ve been shopping around for quotes. Venue, equipment ie projector, screen and equivilant speakers they woulda had in 77. Looks to be costing us only just under £100.
All rented of course. A small cost shared between many.

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I have a room with an led projector hanging from the ceiling. The room is light controlled and can be pitch black in the middle of the day so it was perfect. Leds aren’t as bright but this isn’t a concern in a room that can be completely dark at any time, and is well worth the extremely extended bulb life. It has a 1080p native resolution (something you have to watch out for in digital projectors. They may say they are 1080p but some of them only can ACCEPT 1080p input but actually project at SD… You have to go by the native resolution) and is plugged in an extremely long hdmi chord that is ran through the walls and comes out in a corner that is visibly blocked by furniture but very easily reached by hand and you can plug anything with wireless controlling into it. I usually have a desktop pc tower plugged in with a wireless mouse and keyboard with a blue ray drive for watching things and wireless controllers for playing games. This same hdmi cord is split to also run into a surround system. It’s pretty sweet and the whole chibang cost about 600 bucks or so. (Generic Chinese projector but it still looks great and has a very crisp 1080p image, the only area it’s lacking is interface and hud but I always leave it on the hdmi input so who cares? And the surround system is one of those rca ones you get at Walmart for about 130 bucks but it sounds nice surprisingly. I wouldn’t use it to listen to music but for movies and games it’s wonderful.)

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A solid 1080p projector will set you back around 400$ new, even less used - that’s for a reputable brand. I’d say they’re cheap to the point where bothering with potential Chinese crap isn’t really worth it… And these can do 100" from a distance of about 2m - that’s for long throw models. Short throw projectors can do the same image from right next to the screen, basically - depending on how you plan your setup there are options.

If you’re just getting into the topic you might want to read up on DLP vs 3LCD as well.

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m_s0 said:

A solid 1080p projector will set you back around 400$ new, even less used - that’s for a reputable brand. I’d say they’re cheap to the point where bothering with potential Chinese crap isn’t really worth it… And these can do 100" from a distance of about 2m - that’s for long throw models. Short throw projectors can do the same image from right next to the screen, basically - depending on how you plan your setup there are options.

If you’re just getting into the topic you might want to read up on DLP vs 3LCD as well.

Yeah it did cost about $400 dollars and it looks great, thank you.

Anyway I forgot to include the price of the screen in the $600 estimate so put it up to about 700. And the screen size is 120 inches. It could handle larger actually but I can only work with the size of the wall. Sorry the fact that it wasn’t a brand you expect doesn’t conform to how shitty you think it should be.

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I’m just advising against picking up no-name hardware that the official specifications of quite often don’t matter much. Chinese ‘HD’ capture cards being a fun example.

Anyway, I didn’t mean this as a personal insult. Sorry if you felt this way.

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Well I do understand the stigma with Chinese no name knock offs as sometimes it is much deserved but this one is quite well built. The image is crystal clear and detailed. The only aspect of it that seems lacking is the HUD/interface.

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Well I do understand the stigma with Chinese no name knock offs as sometimes it is much deserved but this one is quite well built. The image is crystal clear and detailed. The only aspect of it that seems lacking is the HUD/interface.

Optoma started off with a reputation as a bit of a knockoff brand and they ended up making a 720p DLP that competed with the Sharp at less than half the cost. They’re pretty well regarded today.

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