Tell me, if someone were to say to you that abortion is not a huge and controversial issue, would you waste time trying to convince the guy that he was wrong?
I’m not saying it isn’t a controversial issue. It clearly is. I’m saying that I’d like to hear some of the reasons people think having much fewer restrictions on it is a bad thing, because I’ve yet to hear an argument that convinces me we need to be cracking down the way so many seem to think we do.
Note that everything I just said applies equally to my views on abortion, since you brought that up.
Basically, it’s a controversial issue because people think it’s a problem. I’m not convinced it’s a problem at all, and anytime someone here has been asked why they think it is, the answer seems to be “it just is” with no reasoning given.
I haven’t seen those questions/exchanges.
As I said, I start from the premise that immigration law is good and necessary. Illegal immigration is a threat to our security because we don’t know who is coming in, the overall impact on our economy is arguable but there is some negative impact, illegal immigration results in a permanent second-class status for millions of people, crimes go unreported out of fear, gangs like MS13 profit from it, it is unfair to those who follow the law to become citizens, among other reasons.
then change the fucking law. as shown in the infographic above shared by flametitan, it’s a pain in the ass to even be eligible to apply for US citizenship. do you think families trying to run for their lives give a shit or have the resources to try to do that? or have any of the necessary qualifications? no they don’t. so because they have no previous ties to the US, they deserve to suffer? the system is not fair at all.
honestly just change the system, and stop being so close minded. this is xenophobia at its best. like already stated in the thread, the whole concept of borders is absolute bullshit - especially given to the US (given its history). not to mention that to prevent someone from having a better shot at life or trying to pursue happiness simply because they were born in another place goes directly against the declaration of independence, word for word.
perhaps if there was a law change and a better structure to deal with immigrants that can’t go through all the bureaucracy that’s now in place (just something to help them settle or something like that) then illegal immigration would be no problem at all because it then would be legal immigration and the immigrants would (if the policy/idea i’m proposing here worked) be helping society and the economy prosper.
the US is the richest and most prosperous country in the world, or at least in the west, and that comes with consequences. you may choose to act nobly and basically try to help those in need (but NOT like the military theoretically did in the middle east) or you can choose to close the door to anyone in need and to try to prosper alone, gates and borders closed.
The one thing I agree with you on is: change the law.
The open borders stuff is nonsense but I think a sensible solution could be found to provide for increased immigration.