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CatBus
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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22-Jun-2018, 2:42 PM

moviefreakedmind said:

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/27/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/06/21/theres-no-immigration-crisis-and-these-charts-prove-it/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.1e4e01522ed0

Here’s some good information that I’m sure Warbler won’t care about. But if anyone is interested in a starting point for how the illegal immigration “crisis” is blown out of proportion, here’s a couple articles.

I think it’s fair to come up with a set of parameters that, in the abstract, would define an “illegal immigration crisis”, and this could vary from person to person. Then, once you have those parameters, see if the facts match them.

For example, I’m going to rhetorically take the position of a “zero tolerance, law-and-order-at-all-costs” observer. By that criteria, the fact that undocumented immigrants have lower crime rates than the native population isn’t relevant, nor is the fact that they provide a net economic boon. So we simply disregard those facts. They crossed the border illegally, and that’s the only point that matters here.

So to constitute a crisis, merely one person needs to disregard the law and cross the border? Well, even for me, that’s a little extreme. If they get caught and sent back, that’s the law functioning as designed, not a crisis. So to be a crisis, a “zero tolerance, law-and-order-at-all-costs” observer could fairly say more people would have to be crossing the Mexican border than were being sent back.

Which means, for a “zero tolerance, law-and-order-at-all-costs” observer, there was once a crisis, but it ended about ten years ago. Other observers with other priorities such as public safety or economic concerns may find that there has been no illegal immigration crisis for a much longer period of time.