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Post #1218110

Author
Jay
Parent topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Date created
19-Jun-2018, 7:29 PM

TV’s Frink said:

Jay said:

Maybe you should take a break from typing/squawking and improve your reading comprehension.

Comments like this hardly raise the level of discourse, like you claim to want.

Care to comment on the article now?

From the article:

Immigration experts we spoke to said Obama-era policies did lead to some family separations, but only relatively rarely, and nowhere near the rate of the Trump administration. (A Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman said the Obama administration did not count the number of families separated at the border.)

“Obama generally refrained from prosecution in cases involving adults who crossed the border with their kids,” said Peter Margulies, an immigration law and national security law professor at Roger Williams University School of Law. “In contrast, the current administration has chosen to prosecute adult border-crossers, even when they have kids. That’s a choice — one fundamentally different from the choice made by both Obama and previous presidents of both parties.”

The first paragraph is basically what I said: family separation happened less often under Obama, but the numbers will likely never be accurately reported. Strikes me as convenient that there aren’t records to back up the claims, but whatever.

The second paragraph clarifies that the policy isn’t one of family separation, but one of zero tolerance in terms of federal prosecution. Obama’s admin often let adults go if they had kids with them (catch and release). Trump’s admin is prosecuting all adults, regardless of family situation. As I said, the policy needs review regardless of administration, even though there are issues of child trafficking that make it unwise to allow adults with children a free pass. What happens to these kids once they’re in the country and who’s responsible for their welfare? That’s where the “1500 lost kids” story came from.

TV’s Frink said:

I miss non-angry Jay. He used to make a lot of cool posts.

I suspect what you miss is having your world view and accompanying arguments go unchallenged.