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What about you? The moment when you "divorced" from the Lucas policy about SW? — Page 2

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"I'm not trying to turn it into something else, man, you are. I'm saying EXACTLY what it is.....Yes, this dude is more than likely 100 percent NOT going to do it. Yes, he's just venting."

*I'm* the one turning it into something else, and yet you agree with me that it's just venting. Hmmmm.....

"and excusing it because you happen to not like the guy he's wishing death upon is just weak sauce, man. There's really no way around it."

That's just your opinion, in so many ways. I'm not defending him, nor do I agree with his sentiment, but it's just venting. Nothing more, nothing less.

"If Lucas got hit with a car tomorrow, and that guy applauded his death, (as it appears he would) would you still stick up for him because he hangs out in a tight knit forum?"

Uhm, nope. Maybe if you asked what my stance was, instead of pretending to explain my stance to me, you would understand that.

"It wouldn't be as big a deal if this board didn't pride itself on the quality of its posters so often."

It *isn't* such a big deal, since Jedikev has been talked to by others about his attitude on this very board. Perhaps you didn't notice, but everyone else ignored this comment *except* for you. He's a self-admitted troll, and yet here you, playing right into his little game, and creating all this drama.

"Can't you see how that's a pretty thin reason to let something that screwed up slide?"

You make it sound like you've accomplished something in all this.

"And it's very disingenuous to say that there wouldn't be at the LEAST a public ass-reaming if someone traipsed into one of your threads, said "MeBe should die a painful death," if not a banning depending on what admin or moderator stumbled across it. You can say it wouldn't bother you, but the close-knit community everyone prides themselves on ASSURES that other people would take him to task for you."

Two different scenarios. I've no doubt someone would say something, but there wouldn't be a banning in that scenario.

"Be real about it, man. it's alright to admit that wishing death on someone for "screwing up" some fantasy movies is a bullshit move."

How about you admit I never stated otherwise. You had no idea what my stance was, so don't be so quick with the victory dance. I know your feelings were hurt because you felt that someone maligned your precious MF.com, but this little vengeance crusade is way over the top (which is your schtick anyways).

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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You're so weird. Why would I have to EXPLICITLY ask what your stance is? That's what the point of your responses are (or at least should be) That's why context exists, man. You gonna tell me your posts didn't lead anywhere because you never blocked off a paragraph with

HERE IS MY STANCE, LET ME EXPLAIN IT FULLY TO YOU

?

That's silliness, man. The fact that you never took the time TO say otherwise--It's common sense to then take one of two things from that:

a) you don't think otherwise, otherwise you would have said so, so as to make your argument as clear as possible.
b) you're being purposefully obtuse in order to give yourself wiggle room later while line-by-lining.

And the line-by-line shit is so exhausting, really. You can communicate those thoughts JUST FINE without having to quote my ENTIRE post back at me. I can scroll up and read it if I need to.

The major disconnect seems to be that you think "Just venting" makes it understandable. My thing is that "just venting" is fine, but people here can do better than "just venting" in that manner. And just letting "a troll" stick around isn't helping, either. It's not like this place hasn't run em off before, either. there's typically pretty good quality control.

(cue joke about letting ME stay here being proof against it)

(cue quote of above parenthetical and snide one liner by MeBe re-wording above joke unironically)



(and you say I'm not familiar with the people here.)

I can agree with you about it being "just venting" and not be "twisting it into something else." there's no hidden motive, (especially not to "Stick up for" or "defend" MF.com. I don't own the site, and haven't visited there in quite a while, so there's no vested interest in "defending its honor" or whatever) because I try to lay everything out as clearly as possible. My argument is with the manner of the venting, not with the fact he's venting. There's cool, constructive, discussion-conducive ways to do it. that's all I'm arguing for. That you wanna write that off as "drama" with a condescending tone is a little unfair to the board.

not every time we talk has to be you acidly line-by-line clawing at me, man. It's happened before At some point you forgot that there was this unfair image of me in your head that you read every post with, even the multiple times I've tried to extend an olive branch to you. I'm not even ATTACKING you, man. You react so weirdly DEFENSIVE whenever I post, I honestly don't get it. We can have a difference of opinion without us having to rip each others throats out (an action that's largely on YOUR end most times, not mine) I mean, to go so far as listing my (I think) pretty reasonable posts as something like "a vengeance crusade" is sort of ridiculous. Vengeance for what? Isn't "vengeance" a little overboard for something like this? What am I 'avenging?" Civil Discussion? And then to think my FEELINGS were hurt because of it? If you're as familiar with me as you think you are, you'd know it'd take a fair bit to actually HURT MY FEELINGS through a screen. It's gotta be something pretty personal to do that. Like clowning my mom or calling my brother an asshole or something.

What you think you're doing and what you're actually doing aren't converging, man. Step back a little. I'm not ATTACKING you VENGEFULLY or whatever. I think if you re-read my posts with those blinders off, it'll come across more like Lance read it.

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Originally posted by: The Bizzle
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That's because everyone else here understands that this is simply someone venting frustration,


But that's not really the point, is it. There's not really any excuse for wishing anyone dead at any time. Especially over something as ultimately minor as a movie. Whether said in jest or "frustration" or not. the fact someone would get THAT frustrated as to wish someone's death over it is entirely more disturbing than either someone saying "I like the SE's better than the originals." or "I re-edited all the movies to better fit my personal vision."

But yet the fiercest, meanest, most personal arguments will break out over those two lines. And no one says anything about "I wish he was dead." at all. As a matter of fact, I guarantee that if he said "I wish MeBeJedi would just fucking DIE." there would be a banning rather swiftly. But since he said "I wish George Lucas would die" he gets a pass.

There's something wrong with that, and something wrong with making excuses for it. It doesn't fit on a board where the posters seem to take great pride in how different they are from other websites. If you guys think you're better than that, (and it's obvious most of you do) you really need to BE better than that instead of writing off and making excuses for some of the dumbest shit said on a Star Wars board.


wow someone on here does use more then half their brain. great to hear you say that, welcome to the boards.

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there's typically pretty good quality control.


why thank you, i do try my best.

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I can tell who's posting what without having to read their username.


you can can you tell when i am posting


hey guys just trying a little dry humor to lighten the mood. the bizzle your 100% right i very often find myself telling people off for doing such things, bashing th movies for now reason sayin lucas should die and by far the most annoying comment calling him lucASS. now that just annoy's the hell out of me if you trying to convince a man to do something for you i.e. release the OT DVD its usually not a good plan to be calling him names wishing death on him and bashing his other works with no commenting or proof, i.e. by simply saying the movies have too much CG and they suck cause of it. not taking the time to explain why too much CG messes with the movie, or where CG is bad in the movie is a common thing on this sites has almost driven me off for good. examples and ideas are key and its annoying and disrespectfully when you get neither. i say almost because there have been times whern i just stopped all out posting in the SW section, and hte only place i would post is off topic cause some of the people were cool(bossk, gundark, dayv to just name a few), and the idoits that post like i describe dont go into the off topis section. BUT heres the think your on a site that prides itself for the OT quite obviously your going to have PT haters and OT lovers galor, and such is the case. there nothing you can do about it.

on a side i often find it very ironic that i am in the top 3 posters on the site when, it took me like 10 months to sign the petition cause i was too lazy, and also i dont really like the SW movies that much. neither hte PT nor the OT where that amazing overall i found they both had huge errors interms of story telling and effects, the OT was a little better then the PT but still as it goes they are not in my top 5 or top 10 favorite movies. well maybe ESB and ROTS are in the top 10 but the others were just average or sub average movies. i am a fan of the books specifically the NJO.


also want to add its mostly people that just lerk and then post later that claim that OT.com is great. the top posters never say things like that unless they are refering to eachother, so you cant exactly say we pride ourselve on it, its more like outside praise
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Agreed ^^^

"a) you don't think otherwise, otherwise you would have said so, so as to make your argument as clear as possible.
b) you're being purposefully obtuse in order to give yourself wiggle room later while line-by-lining."

As I said, you are more concerned with what you think about people, than what people actually think. Considering the discrepency between your opinion and reality, this discussion is pretty much moot at this point.

[SNIP]

No point continuing this.

Anyways, you and the rest have a good weekend. Going to see the whole family at the beach after work, so we're busy, busy, busy.

MTFBWY

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>