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RU.08 said:

Can anyone tell me which is the best quality Laerdisc sourced rip of the 1997SE? I need one for comparative purposes, I already have the “high quality” TB release that is found on Myspleen. But that’s from a territorial broadcast and I would like a 1997 LD version for comparison.

Thanks!

Well, there’s althor’s captures which he cleaned up and anamorphically resized and another guy on MySpleen whose username I can’t remember ATM captured the Japanese LDs.

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Yeah sorry I edited my post to clarrify, that wouldn’t be suitable as it has been “sync’ed to the Cinema DTS files”. I’m nabbing Jetrell’s Japanese rip… but ideally I’d like an unmodified US Laserdisc rip as well. I know there are some Chinese DVD rips but those aren’t suitable either as their origin is unknown, they may come from territorial telecines done after 1997 for example.

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I synced my rips to capablemetal’s project involving the cinema dts which I believe is probably the “GOUT” standard for the 97se. So I guess his rips are what I would sync to.

Here’s the thread with the work that went into syncing up and creating a standard for the 97se.

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-1997-Star-Wars-Special-Edition-Trilogy-Preservation-Standards-Thread-Work-In-Progress/id/14647/page/1

Luke threw twice…maybe.

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poita said:

The last reel is finishing up now. I’ll be transferring the files off (that alone takes 30 odd hours) and will be creating a ProRes proxy over the weekend.
I will have the version ready for checking early next week, thanks to the people who contacted me via PM, I will break up the reels so that you have one reel each to check. Please use the burned-in timecode to report any issues.
Thanks again for the help, I’d like to ensure we find any issues while the print is still available for re-scanning if needed.

For the Pro-Res, how will you be encoding that? 12bit CINEON or another log curve?

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althor1138 said:

I synced my rips to capablemetal’s project involving the cinema dts which I believe is probably the “GOUT” standard for the 97se. So I guess his rips are what I would sync to.

Coincidently poita sent us both the same part to review, I’ve already sent him my thoughts and I don’t want to bias your or anyone else’s responses so I’ll leave you to gaze your eyes upon the preview un-abided. 😉

It’s not syncing that I’m worried about I just want to see a straight transfer with no dropped frames that is from a 1997 version.

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Ah. I see. Well, I was stopped short by a glitch in the file so wasn’t able to finish. It definitely is interesting watching the laserdisc footage in comparison.

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I’m uploading you a new version now Althor. Sorry about that, it plays okay here in the quicktime player, but I encoded a new version anyway, it is uploading now.

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Synnöve said:

poita said:

The last reel is finishing up now. I’ll be transferring the files off (that alone takes 30 odd hours) and will be creating a ProRes proxy over the weekend.
I will have the version ready for checking early next week, thanks to the people who contacted me via PM, I will break up the reels so that you have one reel each to check. Please use the burned-in timecode to report any issues.
Thanks again for the help, I’d like to ensure we find any issues while the print is still available for re-scanning if needed.

For the Pro-Res, how will you be encoding that? 12bit CINEON or another log curve?

For the proxy?
It is just a low resolution file for checking for lost frames or other problems, it is just a 720P 8bit Rec709 file to keep the file sizes down. For checking colour I am using the DPX files directly, or the ProRes 4444XQ 12bit file encoded from the DPX files, but at a TB per reel, the 4444XQ files would be overkill for checking for basic scanning problems.

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poita said:

Synnöve said:

poita said:

The last reel is finishing up now. I’ll be transferring the files off (that alone takes 30 odd hours) and will be creating a ProRes proxy over the weekend.
I will have the version ready for checking early next week, thanks to the people who contacted me via PM, I will break up the reels so that you have one reel each to check. Please use the burned-in timecode to report any issues.
Thanks again for the help, I’d like to ensure we find any issues while the print is still available for re-scanning if needed.

For the Pro-Res, how will you be encoding that? 12bit CINEON or another log curve?

For the proxy?
It is just a low resolution file for checking for lost frames or other problems, it is just a 720P 8bit Rec709 file to keep the file sizes down. For checking colour I am using the DPX files directly, or the ProRes 4444XQ 12bit file encoded from the DPX files, but at a TB per reel, the 4444XQ files would be overkill for checking for basic scanning problems.

Will you still be releasing a Grindhouse version with a LUT applied, such that we can see the theatrical colors?

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poita said:

I’m uploading you a new version now Althor. Sorry about that, it plays okay here in the quicktime player, but I encoded a new version anyway, it is uploading now.

No problems. Something must have happened during the download from the host or who knows what. I downloaded it twice and it had the same problems both times. Thanks for making another one for me!

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Does anyone have any particular scenes they’d like to see?

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As you wish…

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very Brownish.

“Get over violence, madness and death? What else is there?”

Also known as Mr. Liquid Jungle.

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Those frame scans take me back 20 years! I am surprised how familiar that seems.

Have those frames been adjusted yet?

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Wow! Greedo really does shoot first!

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Slightly too bright, but so much better than the pink home video releases

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Wait - did they keep the original 1977 subtitles for the Greedo scene, but make new subtitles that didn’t match the originals for the Jabba scene?! That’s kind of hilarious.

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No adjustment other than black levels.

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Very nice! Could you possibly show binary sunset and Tantive iv old guy shots?(the latter of which being the bane of many color discussions here).

What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.

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Noooooooo! Do Not Want!

If I had some gum, I’d chew a hole into the sun…

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Very nice! Thank you.

The print looks pretty clean!

What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.

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added old dude

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ChainsawAsh said:

Wait - did they keep the original 1977 subtitles for the Greedo scene, but make new subtitles that didn’t match the originals for the Jabba scene?! That’s kind of hilarious.

Oh God, I can’t unsee that!