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I don’t know if OP can answer this, but maybe someone else can.

Is there any difference between the 2003 and 2008 DVD transfers? One site tells me the latter is a remaster while another tells me they’re both using the same transfer.

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Shalashaska said:

I don’t know if OP can answer this, but maybe someone else can.

Is there any difference between the 2003 and 2008 DVD transfers? One site tells me the latter is a remaster while another tells me they’re both using the same transfer.

I own the 2008 (PAL) DVD and it appears to suffer from compression artefacts as a result of Paramount needing to make room for the extras that they decided to include on the same disc as the film for the 2008 release. It’s particularly noticeable during the bar fight scene in Nepal.

“Logic is the battlefield of adulthood.”

  • Howard Berk
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JayArgonaut said:

Shalashaska said:

I don’t know if OP can answer this, but maybe someone else can.

Is there any difference between the 2003 and 2008 DVD transfers? One site tells me the latter is a remaster while another tells me they’re both using the same transfer.

I own the 2008 (PAL) DVD and it appears to suffer from compression artefacts as a result of Paramount needing to make room for the extras that they decided to include on the same disc as the film for the 2008 release. It’s particularly noticeable during the bar fight scene in Nepal.

I noticed that too. Indy’s face reveal at the start of the film, the same screencap that was posted earlier in this thread, looked like it was full of compression artifacts on my SE PAL DVD.

I compared it side-by-side with the 2006 SW DVDs, and it was night-and-day.

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JayArgonaut said:

Shalashaska said:

I don’t know if OP can answer this, but maybe someone else can.

Is there any difference between the 2003 and 2008 DVD transfers? One site tells me the latter is a remaster while another tells me they’re both using the same transfer.

I own the 2008 (PAL) DVD and it appears to suffer from compression artefacts as a result of Paramount needing to make room for the extras that they decided to include on the same disc as the film for the 2008 release. It’s particularly noticeable during the bar fight scene in Nepal.

Exactly. They are the same master, but the 2008 DVD is more compressed.

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Shalashaska said:

JayArgonaut said:

Shalashaska said:

I don’t know if OP can answer this, but maybe someone else can.

Is there any difference between the 2003 and 2008 DVD transfers? One site tells me the latter is a remaster while another tells me they’re both using the same transfer.

I own the 2008 (PAL) DVD and it appears to suffer from compression artefacts as a result of Paramount needing to make room for the extras that they decided to include on the same disc as the film for the 2008 release. It’s particularly noticeable during the bar fight scene in Nepal.

I noticed that too. Indy’s face reveal at the start of the film, the same screencap that was posted earlier in this thread, looked like it was full of compression artifacts on my SE PAL DVD.

I compared it side-by-side with the 2006 SW DVDs, and it was night-and-day.

Says a lot, doesn’t it? Considering all of the flack they received.

litemakr said:

JayArgonaut said:

Shalashaska said:

I don’t know if OP can answer this, but maybe someone else can.

Is there any difference between the 2003 and 2008 DVD transfers? One site tells me the latter is a remaster while another tells me they’re both using the same transfer.

I own the 2008 (PAL) DVD and it appears to suffer from compression artefacts as a result of Paramount needing to make room for the extras that they decided to include on the same disc as the film for the 2008 release. It’s particularly noticeable during the bar fight scene in Nepal.

Exactly. They are the same master, but the 2008 DVD is more compressed.

Out of curiosity, do you know if the NTSC ROTLA 2003 DVD offers any advantages over the PAL equivalent?

“Logic is the battlefield of adulthood.”

  • Howard Berk
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As for the LPP regrade, the opening shot is pretty challenging, but with a little work some nice detail on the sky can be recovered.

DVD:

WOWOW:

WOWOW regraded:

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JayArgonaut said:

Shalashaska said:

JayArgonaut said:

Shalashaska said:

I don’t know if OP can answer this, but maybe someone else can.

Is there any difference between the 2003 and 2008 DVD transfers? One site tells me the latter is a remaster while another tells me they’re both using the same transfer.

I own the 2008 (PAL) DVD and it appears to suffer from compression artefacts as a result of Paramount needing to make room for the extras that they decided to include on the same disc as the film for the 2008 release. It’s particularly noticeable during the bar fight scene in Nepal.

I noticed that too. Indy’s face reveal at the start of the film, the same screencap that was posted earlier in this thread, looked like it was full of compression artifacts on my SE PAL DVD.

I compared it side-by-side with the 2006 SW DVDs, and it was night-and-day.

Says a lot, doesn’t it? Considering all of the flack they received.

litemakr said:

JayArgonaut said:

Shalashaska said:

I don’t know if OP can answer this, but maybe someone else can.

Is there any difference between the 2003 and 2008 DVD transfers? One site tells me the latter is a remaster while another tells me they’re both using the same transfer.

I own the 2008 (PAL) DVD and it appears to suffer from compression artefacts as a result of Paramount needing to make room for the extras that they decided to include on the same disc as the film for the 2008 release. It’s particularly noticeable during the bar fight scene in Nepal.

Exactly. They are the same master, but the 2008 DVD is more compressed.

Out of curiosity, do you know if the NTSC ROTLA 2003 DVD offers any advantages over the PAL equivalent?

I am guessing nothing picture wise, the PAL probably has more resolution, but it will play at the correct speed. I hate the PAL audio speed up.

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litemakr said:

JayArgonaut said:

Shalashaska said:

JayArgonaut said:

Shalashaska said:

I don’t know if OP can answer this, but maybe someone else can.

Is there any difference between the 2003 and 2008 DVD transfers? One site tells me the latter is a remaster while another tells me they’re both using the same transfer.

I own the 2008 (PAL) DVD and it appears to suffer from compression artefacts as a result of Paramount needing to make room for the extras that they decided to include on the same disc as the film for the 2008 release. It’s particularly noticeable during the bar fight scene in Nepal.

I noticed that too. Indy’s face reveal at the start of the film, the same screencap that was posted earlier in this thread, looked like it was full of compression artifacts on my SE PAL DVD.

I compared it side-by-side with the 2006 SW DVDs, and it was night-and-day.

Says a lot, doesn’t it? Considering all of the flack they received.

litemakr said:

JayArgonaut said:

Shalashaska said:

I don’t know if OP can answer this, but maybe someone else can.

Is there any difference between the 2003 and 2008 DVD transfers? One site tells me the latter is a remaster while another tells me they’re both using the same transfer.

I own the 2008 (PAL) DVD and it appears to suffer from compression artefacts as a result of Paramount needing to make room for the extras that they decided to include on the same disc as the film for the 2008 release. It’s particularly noticeable during the bar fight scene in Nepal.

Exactly. They are the same master, but the 2008 DVD is more compressed.

Out of curiosity, do you know if the NTSC ROTLA 2003 DVD offers any advantages over the PAL equivalent?

I am guessing nothing picture wise, the PAL probably has more resolution, but it will play at the correct speed. I hate the PAL audio speed up.

I can’t stand it either. I have to play all my old DVDs through my computer and VLC at 0.96 speed in order to not go insane.

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litemakr said:

I am guessing nothing picture wise, the PAL probably has more resolution, but it will play at the correct speed. I hate the PAL audio speed up.

Thanks, that convinced me to get the 2003 NTSC 4 disc set. I live in PAL land and despite owning NTSC DVD’s and LD’s and living in NTSC/ATSC countries, I have never really noticed the audio speed up with PAL. I’ve got some questions about this but they’re better posed in a new thread, so as not to derail the main topic here…

“Logic is the battlefield of adulthood.”

  • Howard Berk
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These results look great so far, can’t wait to see Indy in the correct colors and HD!

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MrToad883 said:

These results look great so far, can’t wait to see Indy in the correct colors and HD!

Thanks a lot!

Here’s a little update: still working on the opening shot for both the LPP and DVD versions. Both are challenging in their own ways, but I hope to be finished soon, such that I can make a short video sample, and continue with the rest of the film…

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hello! i was looking through the index and found this thread - i’ve always loved the dvd colors, so this thread was an exciting find. do you still work on this, dre?

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Collipso said:

hello! i was looking through the index and found this thread - i’ve always loved the dvd colors, so this thread was an exciting find. do you still work on this, dre?

I haven’t worked on this in a while, and in the mean time my hard drive crashed, and I lost all my files. So, I would basically have to start from scratch. 😦 At this point I’m working on a number of other projects, so this one is pretty low on my list of priorities, sadly.

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DrDre said:

Collipso said:

hello! i was looking through the index and found this thread - i’ve always loved the dvd colors, so this thread was an exciting find. do you still work on this, dre?

I haven’t worked on this in a while, and in the mean time my hard drive crashed, and I lost all my files. So, I would basically have to start from scratch. 😦 At this point I’m working on a number of other projects, so this one is pretty low on my list of priorities, sadly.

oh, ok. take your time DrDre - i recently came to the conclusion that your projects are some of the most interesting in the site, so i’m pretty much looking forward to all of them. keep up the good work and congratulations 😃

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Collipso said:

DrDre said:

Collipso said:

hello! i was looking through the index and found this thread - i’ve always loved the dvd colors, so this thread was an exciting find. do you still work on this, dre?

I haven’t worked on this in a while, and in the mean time my hard drive crashed, and I lost all my files. So, I would basically have to start from scratch. 😦 At this point I’m working on a number of other projects, so this one is pretty low on my list of priorities, sadly.

oh, ok. take your time DrDre - i recently came to the conclusion that your projects are some of the most interesting in the site, so i’m pretty much looking forward to all of them. keep up the good work and congratulations 😃

Thanks! 😃