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Handman said:

therapists are a waste of time for me.

Fixed. I would never discourage anyone from seeing one if they thought it might help. I would only try to keep their expectations realistic, it won’t “cure” them instantly, they’ll have to work at it, and possibly try a few different ones before finding somebody who works for them.

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TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

meds I don’t want.

Why?

Medication helped me a lot after we lost our daughter. As did group therapy.

I don’t want to spend money on medication and I don’t want to be medicated. As for group therapy, I don’t know why I would want to be in a group with anybody, but especially not group therapy. I credit them for the business model though. You can see a lot more customers rather than one at a time.

Mrebo said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Therapists are a waste. I don’t want to sit on a couch and pay some bastard hundreds of dollars to listen to me tell him about my childhood and then prescribe me some meds I don’t want. As for your “Happiness is possible,” line, that’s a gross generalization. It’s one of the really sickening attitudes that the public tends to have. I hinted at it in a recent conversation in the Politics thread, but such statements (or lies as I prefer to call them) insult me. They’re just vague bullshit lines that people can throw at others and pretend that they’re being helpful. Handman can, and should, do whatever the hell he wants; I was just making a suggestion.

Given that there are people who find more happiness than you believe is possible, I’d say it’s obvious that happiness is possible. I don’t know who finds total carefree bliss, but that’s clearly not what I’m talking about. This is about recognizing and living up to potential.

You must feel you have a really good reason for thinking it isn’t possible for you to become happier.

Happiness seems like a delusion to me, so I don’t find it appealing anymore.

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SilverWook said:

Heard a racket behind my house and stuck my head out the door just in time to see some neighborhood kids chasing a cat under a parked car. One started throwing rocks when they couldn’t get at it. They got so far under the vehicle I was hoping they’d get stuck. Little bastards.

Another good argument for birth control.

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Mfm it’s obvious that you revel in misery and enjoy being unhappy, so maybe you shouldn’t give advice to people that are trying to enjoy their life.

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moviefreakedmind said:

SilverWook said:

Heard a racket behind my house and stuck my head out the door just in time to see some neighborhood kids chasing a cat under a parked car. One started throwing rocks when they couldn’t get at it. They got so far under the vehicle I was hoping they’d get stuck. Little bastards.

Another good argument for birth control.

The blue elephant in the room.

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moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

meds I don’t want.

Why?

Medication helped me a lot after we lost our daughter. As did group therapy.

I don’t want to spend money on medication and I don’t want to be medicated. As for group therapy, I don’t know why I would want to be in a group with anybody, but especially not group therapy. I credit them for the business model though. You can see a lot more customers rather than one at a time.

Mrebo said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Therapists are a waste. I don’t want to sit on a couch and pay some bastard hundreds of dollars to listen to me tell him about my childhood and then prescribe me some meds I don’t want. As for your “Happiness is possible,” line, that’s a gross generalization. It’s one of the really sickening attitudes that the public tends to have. I hinted at it in a recent conversation in the Politics thread, but such statements (or lies as I prefer to call them) insult me. They’re just vague bullshit lines that people can throw at others and pretend that they’re being helpful. Handman can, and should, do whatever the hell he wants; I was just making a suggestion.

Given that there are people who find more happiness than you believe is possible, I’d say it’s obvious that happiness is possible. I don’t know who finds total carefree bliss, but that’s clearly not what I’m talking about. This is about recognizing and living up to potential.

You must feel you have a really good reason for thinking it isn’t possible for you to become happier.

Happiness seems like a delusion to me, so I don’t find it appealing anymore.

Without some kind of assistance I don’t know how you can bounce back from that belief.

But even if you want to accept happiness is a delusion, why wouldn’t you choose that delusion?

The blue elephant in the room.

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I don’t enjoy much of anything so you’re wrong there, but I don’t see anyone else giving any kind of real advice so I just suggested perhaps considering what I believe to be a realistic outlook on things. Some people just aren’t made for the way that relationships work in this society (I am one of those people), so the bombardment of “hang in there, you’ll find friends eventually!” comments aren’t helpful either. I can’t speak for Handman or anyone else, but I find such comments to be as insulting and unhelpful as “Let them eat cake.” I’ll never give anyone any kind of input again, however, since obviously it’s too offensive for anyone to stomach, although Handman said he appreciated my comments, and I trust that he’s capable of deciding for himself what is and isn’t helpful. Also, my initial comments were pretty tepid until people started pressing me on this, so don’t act like I told Handman to be as miserable as I am.

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Mrebo said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

meds I don’t want.

Why?

Medication helped me a lot after we lost our daughter. As did group therapy.

I don’t want to spend money on medication and I don’t want to be medicated. As for group therapy, I don’t know why I would want to be in a group with anybody, but especially not group therapy. I credit them for the business model though. You can see a lot more customers rather than one at a time.

Mrebo said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Therapists are a waste. I don’t want to sit on a couch and pay some bastard hundreds of dollars to listen to me tell him about my childhood and then prescribe me some meds I don’t want. As for your “Happiness is possible,” line, that’s a gross generalization. It’s one of the really sickening attitudes that the public tends to have. I hinted at it in a recent conversation in the Politics thread, but such statements (or lies as I prefer to call them) insult me. They’re just vague bullshit lines that people can throw at others and pretend that they’re being helpful. Handman can, and should, do whatever the hell he wants; I was just making a suggestion.

Given that there are people who find more happiness than you believe is possible, I’d say it’s obvious that happiness is possible. I don’t know who finds total carefree bliss, but that’s clearly not what I’m talking about. This is about recognizing and living up to potential.

You must feel you have a really good reason for thinking it isn’t possible for you to become happier.

Happiness seems like a delusion to me, so I don’t find it appealing anymore.

Without some kind of assistance I don’t know how you can bounce back from that belief.

But even if you want to accept happiness is a delusion, why wouldn’t you choose that delusion?

I’m not delusional.

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Actually “hang in there Ave you’ll meet somebody” is actually how it’s worked for tons and tons of people and it definitely isn’t delusional. It’s kind of just how it works. If you have a good personality and attitude it’s extremely possible and probable that things will fall into place. Your constant spouts about how relationships are worthless and all the other garbage you say all the time is definitely delusional. If you like being that way fine, whatever some people get a rush out of being miserable. you do you but trying to spread that shit to somebody whose actually trying to better himself is pretty fucked and far more insulting.

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Not quite sure what to make of that grammatical mess, but I can speak to what I know and all that bullshit is not helpful to me and I’m sure it’s unhelpful to others as well. I already offered to never give anyone my input ever again, so unless you want me to continue defending my outlook, I don’t understand the purpose of that post.

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All my plans to hang out with people fell through tonight, so I’m sitting at a mid-range bar sipping on a drink surrounded by strangers.

How do you socialize with people you don’t know again? Either I forgot or never knew in the first place.

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The same way you would with people you know, minus sharing intimate details about yourself.

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Making efforts to socialize feels like a great burden to me and chatting up strangers is unthinkable. I sort of envy those of you who want to make the effort to socialize.

The blue elephant in the room.

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Possessed said:

The same way you would with people you know, minus sharing intimate details about yourself.

Yeah, but that’s automatic. I don’t know how I do that either.

Mrebo said:

Making efforts to socialize feels like a great burden to me and chatting up strangers is unthinkable. I sort of envy those of you who want to make the effort to socialize.

Yep, this. Yet here I am…

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Whatever you do, don’t just randomly start rapping “Going Back To Cali” by Biggie Smalls to all of them, as tempting as that may be.

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Possessed said:

Whatever you do, don’t just randomly start rapping “Going Back To Cali” by Biggie Smalls to all of them, as tempting as that may be.

Would this be a better choice?

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Possessed said:

Whatever you do, don’t just randomly start rapping “Going Back To Cali” by Biggie Smalls to all of them, as tempting as that may be.

Would this be a better choice?

allol

I am in the same situation, Ash.

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Just hang in there! You’ll have a great circle of friends in no time!

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Oh no, I’m just trying to ruin other people’s lives, haven’t you heard?

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moviefreakedmind said:

Mrebo said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

meds I don’t want.

Why?

Medication helped me a lot after we lost our daughter. As did group therapy.

I don’t want to spend money on medication and I don’t want to be medicated. As for group therapy, I don’t know why I would want to be in a group with anybody, but especially not group therapy. I credit them for the business model though. You can see a lot more customers rather than one at a time.

Mrebo said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Therapists are a waste. I don’t want to sit on a couch and pay some bastard hundreds of dollars to listen to me tell him about my childhood and then prescribe me some meds I don’t want. As for your “Happiness is possible,” line, that’s a gross generalization. It’s one of the really sickening attitudes that the public tends to have. I hinted at it in a recent conversation in the Politics thread, but such statements (or lies as I prefer to call them) insult me. They’re just vague bullshit lines that people can throw at others and pretend that they’re being helpful. Handman can, and should, do whatever the hell he wants; I was just making a suggestion.

Given that there are people who find more happiness than you believe is possible, I’d say it’s obvious that happiness is possible. I don’t know who finds total carefree bliss, but that’s clearly not what I’m talking about. This is about recognizing and living up to potential.

You must feel you have a really good reason for thinking it isn’t possible for you to become happier.

Happiness seems like a delusion to me, so I don’t find it appealing anymore.

Without some kind of assistance I don’t know how you can bounce back from that belief.

But even if you want to accept happiness is a delusion, why wouldn’t you choose that delusion?

I’m not delusional.

It must be an awfully easy thing to be under this delusion. How were you able to escape it? And what’s the value in [seeing life as it really is]?

The blue elephant in the room.

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darthrush said:

I don’t know why but I always find mfm’s nihilistic responses to be refreshing and welcome. Maybe cause I am such a pessimist at times.

Me too, I don’t get what the fuss is. That he’s consistently himself?