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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father I agree with every single point (positive and negative) made by MeBeJedi. One other thing though that he missed - they made this huge deal out of nothing electrical working, even Super-Tom's cell phone, then in the next scene there is a guy filming the tripod on his video camera!!! Maybe he got the Super-Mecahnic who fixed the car that Tom steals to fix the camera too.


Considering that I haven't seen a post by MBJ on this, I assume you meant my post. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I made that post when I was rather tired so I only addressed the things that were really bugging me at the time. One guy made a point on a different forum that if the camera was off at the time it happened, it most likely wouldn't be affected. Even cars that are off still have a current running through them. That made some sense to me. Still, I agree that it's a tad silly to make such a large point of everything not working, yet slapping that in at a time where you have no time to rationalize it.

I'm all for the "draw your own conclusions" approach to storytelling, but that wasn't really the time for it, since we had to focus on the tripod, not some dude's camera.


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Originally posted by: Mavimao
Oh and about Signs: that part when Joaquin Phoenix is watching the homevideo of the birthday party in South America on the news...and you wait...you wait...are you going to see something? And right as your heart is pounding, wondering, waiting, this strange creature just walks by ever so delicately and the kids scream.

Freakiest part of the whole thing.

The rest was blah.


They spoke a weird phonetically memorized portuguese in that scene...
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Nosotros estamos mexicanos. No hablamos... Portugese.


Nosotros SOMOS mexicanos, si? Los verbos (verbos? I don't know) "soy" y "estoy" eh... uh... ok english: all mean "to be", but "soy" means identity and "estoy" means place, permanence. "I am mexican" : Yo soy mexicano. "I am in mexico": Estoy en Mexico.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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Originally posted by: Warbler
ID4 wasn't great, but ID4 was better than EP I and EP II. (IMHO) . Gundark, what do you mean by flat?

Shimmy had basically the right idea. Movies today are released in one of 2 formats: flat or scope. Scope movies use an anamorphic lens during filming and projection, yielding an aspect ratio of 2.35 or 2.40:1. The whole frame is used during filming (in most cases; don't get me started on Super 35), yielding a sharp, and in most cases grain-free, image. Flat movies, on the other hand, shoot with ordinary (or spherical) lenses, but are matted top and bottom, yielding an aspect ratio of 1.66 to 1.85:1. Downside: less exposed film makes for a grainy image, and sharpness is also compromised, but a lot of filmmakers prefer to shoot flat because of greater flexibility in low light situations.

Any other questions?

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so thats what i was thinking, man i amaze myself some times


gun i dont think what you said is what i meant, i was talking about style interms of how far and how much you can see in the camera lens.
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but a lot of filmmakers prefer to shoot flat because of greater flexibility in low light situations.


...because there is a bigger variety of spherical lenses than anamorphic lenses. Don't forget that anamorphic lenses distort images differently than spherical images. This creates a "look" that people would call epic or "surreal". Older films shot in Cinemascope had some weird distortion issues which is why there are very little close ups in these films. It got better with Panavision but you still notice some weird issues, especially at the edges of frames. Look at ANH on the Tantive IV and look at people on the left and right sides of the frames for the medium and wide shots. Or better yet, 2001 when Dave climbs down the ladder to get to the pod room to get the other guy HAL tossed into space. There's a pan shot that reeks of scope distortion (mixed with a really wide lens).

Still a lot of directors like to shoot in scope and use wide lenses to create this weird look. Wes Anderson is a prime example.

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sorry, this sort of stuff confuses me.
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Older films shot in Cinemascope had some weird distortion issues which is why there are very little close ups in these films. It got better with Panavision but you still notice some weird issues, especially at the edges of frames.


The best example of this is the home releases of "Its a mad mad mad mad world", it's very distorted at the edges.
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maybe but I think I still prefer the widescreen edition to the pan and scan.
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I was refering to the widescreen!
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yes I know. I was just saything that I still prefer the widescreen print to the pan and scan despite the distortion at the edges.
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Well, it's a cinerama movie. If a regular 16:9 movie, when showed in pan scan, loses about 30% of it's picture, what's the lose ration in a cinerama flick shown in 4:3 pan scan? 75%?
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
Well, it's a cinerama movie. If a regular 16:9 movie, when showed in pan scan, loses about 30% of it's picture, what's the lose ration in a cinerama flick shown in 4:3 pan scan? 75%?


I think it's more like 60%. It also depends on how much your television overscans an image. It could make it worse!

Warbler: I agree that I'd pick widescreen films over Pan and Scan anyday of the week! The distortions are just inherent to the technology of the day. Just like bad SPFX, you've gotta deal with it.

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Just saw The War Of The Worlds last night. Good movie. I found it difficult to go to sleep afterwards. Spielburg did an excellent job on this film.

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I don't think I'll ever forget the roar the alien ships make, or the effect of the heat rays turning people to ash in seconds. Very frightening. I surprised it didn't get an R-rating. But I must say that having the ships buried on earth years before, was a bad idea. It created an unnecessary plot hole.
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yeah that sound was very frightning
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Perhpas they were burired real deep and we just overlooked them...

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Originally posted by: Warbler
Just saw The War Of The Worlds last night. Good movie. I found it difficult to go to sleep afterwards. Speilburg did an excellent job on this film.

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I don't think I'll ever forget the roar the alien ships make, or the effect of the heat rays turning people to ash in seconds. Very frightening. I surprised it didn't get an R-rating. But I must say that having the ships buried on earth years before, was a bad idea. It created an unnecessary plot hole.


Spielburg?

I think the whole thing was tamed down too much in order to get a PG-13. I hate when filmmakers do that! He should have gone for the edge and done it in a gory, graphic way for a even greater shocking moment.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Perhpas they were burired real deep and we just overlooked them...


That wasn't the plot hole I was referring too,. Reread this comment from Klingon Jedi:

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How'd we never notice the buried tripods? Why didn't the aliens know of are diseases. Why bury tripods at all? Whats the point with having machines laying in wait for millenia.Was there something stopping them from beginning until we had developed weapons? We the dinosuars too unappealing to conquear?


now that I have seen the film, I totally agree with this complaint.
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Hm. It seems it would be up to fanfiction to solve this complaint.

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We'll have to let fans figure it out and write fiction about it.

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