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TV’s Frink said:

It comes off as “you can be gay, just don’t bother me with your gayness.” Similar to how chyron is bothered by “flamboyant men.”

I am unapologetic for this. I am allowed to be uncomfortable in certain situations, and I internalize little rebuke for it.

It’s not about being gay, it’s about uncomfortably odd behavior. They are obviously allowed to behave the way they do, but I am not obligated to feel comfortable around it.

Honestly, my being uncomfortable with certain behaviors doesn’t make me a bigot.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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Dek Rollins said:

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Some gay people at my school constantly brag about how gay they are (mostly to eachother), and it’s extremely annoying. It’s like they think people like me actually care that they’re gay.

If I were gay and I heard someone talking like this, I’d certainly brag more, because I’d find it extremely annoying to listen to how annoyed that person was that I was talking about being gay.

It comes off as “you can be gay, just don’t bother me with your gayness.” Similar to how chyron is bothered by “flamboyant men.”

So I’m unreasonable for being annoyed by people ramble on with eachother about “I’m more gay than you” “No I’m more gay because this” “No I’m so gay I did this.” Okay.

I’m not going to be rude to these people and tell them to shut up, but I won’t start caring about how gay they are. Because I honestly don’t care.

They aren’t talking out of liberation. They just think they’re funny/interesting, but they’re not.

Did they ask you to care?

Isn’t that what attention-seeking behavior is at its core?

Isn’t it hard for you to make that judgement solely based on the reporting of one person who may or may not be biased?

No more difficult than it is for you to assume the opposite, so I guess we’re both equally uninformed 😛

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chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

It comes off as “you can be gay, just don’t bother me with your gayness.” Similar to how chyron is bothered by “flamboyant men.”

I am unapologetic for this. I am allowed to be uncomfortable in certain situations, and I internalize little rebuke for it.

It’s not about being gay, it’s about uncomfortably odd behavior. They are obviously allowed to behave they do, but I am not obligated to feel comfortable around it.

Honestly, my being uncomfortable with certain behaviors doesn’t make me a bigot.

I’m the arbiter of when offense is justified or not.

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Not even two hours into a new week, and i already have a lot of malice towards the clients i have to provide technical support to (This is why you don’t start your week with support tickets). The stupid things people do.

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Had they not tried turning it off and back on again?

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You couldn’t pay me to work tech support. Or any other kind of customer support for that matter.

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moviefreakedmind said:

You couldn’t pay me to work tech support. Or any other kind of customer support for that matter.

me either. well you could, but i would avoid it.

i am not help desk type support, we provide level 2 support to various clients, support specific technologies. So we are the people that the help desk calls. So we avoid most of the headache of directly dealing with end users, but some help desk people are extremely frustrating as well. (they try a bajillion things before they call us, 99% of them things they shouldn’t have done) thankfully this type of work is only like 20% of my job.

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dahmage said:

moviefreakedmind said:

You couldn’t pay me to work tech support. Or any other kind of customer support for that matter.

me either. well you could, but i would avoid it.

i am not help desk type support, we provide level 2 support to various clients, support specific technologies. So we are the people that the help desk calls. So we avoid most of the headache of directly dealing with end users, but some help desk people are extremely frustrating as well. (they try a bajillion things before they call us, 99% of them things they shouldn’t have done) thankfully this type of work is only like 20% of my job.

I’ve quit jobs before over not liking 1% of my job.

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Collipso said:

Dek Rollins said:

Some gay people at my school constantly brag about how gay they are (mostly to eachother), and it’s extremely annoying. It’s like they think people like me actually care that they’re gay.

most of my friends talk mainly about women, and that’s it. about how straight they are, in a way. i wonder if gay people find that annoying.

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Collipso said:

Dek Rollins said:

Some gay people at my school constantly brag about how gay they are (mostly to eachother), and it’s extremely annoying. It’s like they think people like me actually care that they’re gay.

most of my friends talk mainly about women, and that’s it. about how straight they are, in a way. i wonder if gay people find that annoying.

I would find that annoying as well. Also please capitalize.

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moviefreakedmind said:

dahmage said:

moviefreakedmind said:

You couldn’t pay me to work tech support. Or any other kind of customer support for that matter.

me either. well you could, but i would avoid it.

i am not help desk type support, we provide level 2 support to various clients, support specific technologies. So we are the people that the help desk calls. So we avoid most of the headache of directly dealing with end users, but some help desk people are extremely frustrating as well. (they try a bajillion things before they call us, 99% of them things they shouldn’t have done) thankfully this type of work is only like 20% of my job.

I’ve quit jobs before over not liking 1% of my job.

Speaking of workplace woes, I recommend to A Confederacy of Dunces. Such a good book.

The blue elephant in the room.

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I’m getting really sick of this “Lando is pansexual” bullshit that keeps popping up on my Google news feed. Like, really? Does every popular franchise need to retcon characters’ sexuality behind the scenes as some ridiculous attempt at inclusiveness?

And why is this plastered all over the dang place?

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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I’m just sick of it being all over my feed. Like if the character is, then he is. Put it in the movie or whatever. But I wish they’d stop making these claims behind the scenes, and that the media would stop going crazygonuts about it and making articles pop up everywhere.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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chyron8472 said:

I’m getting really sick of this “Lando is pansexual” bullshit that keeps popping up on my Google news feed. Like, really? Does every popular franchise need to retcon characters’ sexuality behind the scenes as some ridiculous attempt at inclusiveness?

And why is this plastered all over the dang place?

Aside from the obvious pandering, I think it’s a way for them to deal with a character that some would consider retrograde. If Lando is a guy who tries to seduce the ladies it’s way too easy offend a vocal minority.

The blue elephant in the room.

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Fun fact: Movie studios aren’t as progressive as we think. They are corporations who want to sell toys. Notice how all the lead characters in the new movies are still white (Rey, Luke, Kylo Ren, Jyn) and usually it is the people of color who slowly are pushed to become side characters (Finn, Rose, the rest of the Rogue One team).

Not to mention that still every director has been a white man.

“Let’s show that we are progressive…but not TOO progressive!”

And by the way, Lando being pansexual makes perfect sense to me.

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Yeah if theres an actual reference to it in the film I’ll… Be surprised.

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I don’t see what’s wrong with it at all. I’m hard pressed to think of why it’s a problem in anyway. It literally isn’t at all.

As for the cynical side, from what I understand this is one of the screenwriter’s opinions that was brought up in an interview and it’s been blown into a big thing by media outlets. Disney hasn’t mentioned it so it’s not really a Beauty and the Beast or Star Trek Beyond situation where it’s a pandering marketing tactic and I’m not sure it’s even canon.

Who knows if there’s any sign of it in the movie but I will say if there isn’t, that’s lazy to say he is that then. In that case calling it pandering makes sense. Otherwise bullshit. Every time a story includes a non straight character, nerds complain loudly about “pandering.” Yet of course no one cries “pandering” when they’re straight. It’s bullshit and you’re part of the problem if you feed into that.

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It’s absolutely lazy and ties into my last post about how I think Disney has not really committed fully to diversity. Which makes it funnier to me when people complain about the SJW agenda of Lucasfilm. Literally look at most of their casting and creative assignments and then it becomes apparent that they like to just barely add in some diversity, while not getting too crazy.

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darthrush said:

It’s absolutely lazy and ties into my last post about how I think Disney has not really committed fully to diversity. Which makes it funnier to me when people complain about the SJW agenda of Lucasfilm. Literally look at most of their casting and creative assignments and then it becomes apparent that they like to just barely add in some diversity, while not getting too crazy.

I think final judgements are premature. Let’s look at how the film handles it first. (if anyone knows already from reading spoilery things online from those who’ve seen it, let’s not go there).

There is potentially an argument to be made that this is an area where Disney is doing some push back. At this point we’ve heard SW writers, directors, and actors all express interest in non straight characters. So far nothing in the films.

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DominicCobb said:

I don’t see what’s wrong with it at all. I’m hard pressed to think of why it’s a problem in anyway. It literally isn’t at all.

As for the cynical side, from what I understand this is one of the screenwriter’s opinions that was brought up in an interview and it’s been blown into a big thing by media outlets. Disney hasn’t mentioned it so it’s not really a Beauty and the Beast or Star Trek Beyond situation where it’s a pandering marketing tactic and I’m not sure it’s even canon.

Who knows if there’s any sign of it in the movie but I will say if there isn’t, that’s lazy to say he is that then. In that case calling it pandering makes sense. Otherwise bullshit. Every time a story includes a non straight character, nerds complain loudly about “pandering.” Yet of course no one cries “pandering” when they’re straight. It’s bullshit and you’re part of the problem if you feed into that.

I know George Takei was upset, but it doesn’t mean Prime universe Sulu can’t still be straight. Showing a gay couple in Trek was long overdue. A big improvement over casually mentioning (but not onscreen) that a minor character in First Contact was gay and they end up the major redshirt in the movie.

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SilverWook said:

DominicCobb said:

I don’t see what’s wrong with it at all. I’m hard pressed to think of why it’s a problem in anyway. It literally isn’t at all.

As for the cynical side, from what I understand this is one of the screenwriter’s opinions that was brought up in an interview and it’s been blown into a big thing by media outlets. Disney hasn’t mentioned it so it’s not really a Beauty and the Beast or Star Trek Beyond situation where it’s a pandering marketing tactic and I’m not sure it’s even canon.

Who knows if there’s any sign of it in the movie but I will say if there isn’t, that’s lazy to say he is that then. In that case calling it pandering makes sense. Otherwise bullshit. Every time a story includes a non straight character, nerds complain loudly about “pandering.” Yet of course no one cries “pandering” when they’re straight. It’s bullshit and you’re part of the problem if you feed into that.

I know George Takei was upset, but it doesn’t mean Prime universe Sulu can’t still be straight. Showing a gay couple in Trek was long overdue. A big improvement over casually mentioning (but not onscreen) that a minor character in First Contact was gay and they end up the major redshirt in the movie.

Even if Takei was upset (which is totally fair for him to be), he’s not the arbiter of everything that can be done with that character, especially, as you mention, that it’s not even in the same universe.

I should clarify the reason I bring it up is they definitely overdid the hoopla on that one, considering how small it was in the film. Not that it needed to be bigger, but don’t go patting yourself on the back for a blink and you miss it moment. To Jon Kasdan’s credit, it just seems like someone asked him a question and he answered it. Would be interesting to hear Lawrence’s perspective considering he is one of the character’s creators - but again, that wouldn’t mean he should necessarily have the final judgement.

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I totally missed out on the fuss, save for Takei’s reaction.

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