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But he didn't create my life. My parents and God did that.


warb that comment was not intended for you. and i dont assume the truth either, i just forn presume he is a liar cause something he says contradicts something else he said 20 years later.
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Originally posted by: fans own the trilogy
Well if you did any digging yourself you could easily find information that contradicts his statement of having it all planned out before hand.

Shimraa is only interested in contradicting the people who post on this board.
Contradiction gives Shimraa a feeling of control - the ability to cause agitation and generate debate.
All boards, regardless of their subject matter, have a few people like Shimraa. People who take an opposing stance solely for the purpose of keeping things stirred up. It's empowering for them. Someone who really likes all 6 films the way they are now, has no real reason to be on this board. However, if Shimraa were to go on the other boards where there were people who felt the same way, he\she would be lost in the crowd. Here, Shimraa gets to stand out, to have an identity, to have control.

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i just forn presume he is a liar cause something he says contradicts something else he said 20 years later.


forn? what does that mean? can someone transulate?
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Lucas was seduced by the dark side of filmmaking.
He ceased to be an artist and became a yuppie.

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Fine, mister Lucas, while you're at it why dont you replace Lando with will smith?
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Originally posted by: Kam
Lucas was seduced by the dark side of filmmaking.
He ceased to be an artist and became a yuppie.

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thanks for the valuable comment, you just changed my life by saying that, i never heard anyone say it b4.
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Well of course interviews don't show what Lucas is like. They only show what Lucas wants them to show. He controls them remember?

That's a fucking shit poor anaysis, he is dominant over star wars and wants everything his way. ala september 2004 fox interview trilogy dvds
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Originally posted by: Kam
Lucas was seduced by the dark side of filmmaking.
He ceased to be an artist and became a yuppie.

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"Yuppie", short for "Young Urban Professional", source

so what your saying is lucas got younger from using the dark side? he should share that secret with palpatine
Why Anakin really turned to the dark side:
"Anakin, You're father I am" - Yoda
"No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!" - Anakin

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*touchy people disclaimer*
some or all of the above comments are partially exaggerated to convey a point, none of the comments are meant as personal attacks on anyone mentioned or reference in the above post
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OK, for the sake of contribution, Lucas probably had some vague plans laid out as backstory... but I don't think he had gone into them in any amount of significant detail.

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Well of course interviews don't show what Lucas is like. They only show what Lucas wants them to show. He controls them remember?

That's a fucking shit poor anaysis, he is dominant over star wars and wants everything his way. ala september 2004 fox interview trilogy dvds



That is exactly my point. He wants everything his way, so he only does interviews he can control and therefor they are not real interviews and don't show what Lucas is like. They show what Lucas want us to think he is like, and not how he is really like .

That's a fucking shit poor anaysis *washes Jedikev's mouth out with soap*
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hey guy i just wanted to point out something that might give some evidence that lucas has the story planned out down the level where he knew that anakin created C3PO. in empire strikes back when chewie knocks over the 2 guards, the soldier is just aobut to shot him in the back, whos on his back, C3PO, and vader see this and puts his hand out to stop the man from killing chewie/ blowing up C3PO. i never saw it b4 but when i friend mentioned it made sense.
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Ehhh... it's one of those things I'm sure you can interpret to mean that little Ani is looking out for his creation. But I'd be willing to bet money that isn't the case. For one thing, I, as many others believe, Anakin didn't build 3PO until Phantom Menace. Two, it just doesn't fit with Darth Vader's character. He doesn't have any value for human life (including that of those close to him like Padme and Obi-Wan), so why would he have any value on a droid?

It's a nice observation, though.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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i dont know, but we did see that value in ep3 and ep 2 and ep 1 when he takes care of artoo and so on. we see it specifically in ep3. and tell me why would he tell the guy to stop, he doesnt care about chewie, wouldnt it be more fitting to his character of being a tyrant, if he had just alowed the guard to shoot.
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Well, he obviously does care enough about Chewie to want him and Leia taken to his ship. He's probably much more valuable alive (for his information about the Alliance) than dead.

And, just because he placed value on the droids in his past (just like he placed value on the lives of his human companions) doesn't mean he'd have the same value on them when he became evil. Like I said, he even turned on the humans closest to him, so him caring about droids... it just doesn't seem like it would happen.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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he never turned on a doid thou, ad he was evil for the most part of ep3. and i dont think that chewie would have helped much, liea maybe, but not chewie.
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Originally posted by: Shimraa
...if he had just alowed the guard to shoot.

He would have killed one of the more popular characters in the film. One that represents a huge portion of the marketing tie-ins. No more Chewie action figures or halloween costumes - no more using Chewie to sell potato chips, breakfast cereal, candy, tacos, or soft drinks.

Marketing first, story last.

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Maybe there never was a vision to begin with. Maybe the original Star Wars trilogy was just one big happy accident.
I'd like a qui-gon jinn please with an Obi-Wan to go.

Red heads ROCK. Blondes do not rock. Nuff said.

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yeah and its not like killing one of the main characters just like that wouldnt have had a major story effect, it would have solidified vader as a bad ass, think about how you would felt seeing him alow one of the main characters getting killed, then finding out he is lukes father. man that would have created such a evil cliff hanger to the end of empire. i actually think it would be a good idea, after all how much did chewie do in ROTJ, that another person couldnt have done. he could have been easily killed off right there, and it would have given luke something more the fight about,

NO First my dad now Chewie.

luke you dont understand I am your father

NOOOO i dont beleive i and be that as it may you still alowed chewie to die you bastard.

I am a bastard my mom wasnt married to my dad, so thats not an insult
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hey guy i just wanted to point out something that might give some evidence that lucas has the story planned out down the level where he knew that anakin created C3PO. in empire strikes back when chewie knocks over the 2 guards, the soldier is just aobut to shot him in the back, whos on his back, C3PO, and vader see this and puts his hand out to stop the man from killing chewie/ blowing up C3PO. i never saw it b4 but when i friend mentioned it made sense.


LOL! You have got to be kidding me!? Why anyone is responding to this with any seriousness is hysterical! This has to be the most ridiculous explanation of any PT-OT tie in ever, I'm sure theres others. Just LMAO here. LOL!
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Leave it to Fans Own the Trilogy to sugar-coat his opinions. ^_~ I'm just surprised that Shim hasn't already arrived at the battle field with bazooka in hand.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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fans own, i've got that one beat. someone on another SW board I frequent actually suggested that Lucas put Chewie into Episode III so that Yoda could use the force to communicate with Obi-Wan and tell him that Chewie was a good wookiee, thus helping Obi-Wan to trust Chewie when he meets him in the Mos Eisley cantina in EpIV.

THAT is the most ludicrious attempt at a PT-OT tie-in--and justifying lucas' strategic employment of OT touchstones in the PT for marketing purposes--I have ever heard, and probably ever will hear.
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hey guy i just wanted to point out something that might give some evidence that lucas has the story planned out down the level where he knew that anakin created C3PO. in empire strikes back when chewie knocks over the 2 guards, the soldier is just aobut to shot him in the back, whos on his back, C3PO, and vader see this and puts his hand out to stop the man from killing chewie/ blowing up C3PO. i never saw it b4 but when i friend mentioned it made sense.


LOL! You have got to be kidding me!? Why anyone is responding to this with any seriousness is hysterical! This has to be the most ridiculous explanation of any PT-OT tie in ever, I'm sure theres others. Just LMAO here. LOL!


you know what your just a fuckin idoit that just wont use his imagination.

hey i was wondering have you got to a doctor yet cause your delusions seem to be getting worse, all you doing by post crap like above is make yourself out to be a loser, so go sit in the corner planning the ways your going to assinate lucas, or what ever you do in your free time. and stop trying to look cool. by shooting down opinions of others.

p.s. arent you calling yourself an idoit but saying 'anyone is responding to this with any seriousness is hysterical!' cause you are infact responding to it. maybe in the future you should think things through a little.
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Originally posted by: DarthAstuart
fans own, i've got that one beat. someone on another SW board I frequent actually suggested that Lucas put Chewie into Episode III so that Yoda could use the force to communicate with Obi-Wan and tell him that Chewie was a good wookiee, thus helping Obi-Wan to trust Chewie when he meets him in the Mos Eisley cantina in EpIV.

THAT is the most ludicrious attempt at a PT-OT tie-in--and justifying lucas' strategic employment of OT touchstones in the PT for marketing purposes--I have ever heard, and probably ever will hear.


yeah that is pretty bad, i have heard some people say that the reason chewie was put in was to create a link between him and the jedi order, just in the sense to show that he was a friend of the order, thereby making him trust obiwan more. but thats a loose idea too.