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moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I think my big disconnect is actually that I just can’t accept that I need to be offended that some of the most privileged people on Earth (actors) are getting paid to do things that I don’t see as that big of a deal. I’ve complained before about how offended I get when the .01% expects us plebs to join their causes while still dealing with all the other shit that we have to deal with that they’re completely ignorant of.

The fact that you think all actors are privelged proves how little you understand about the issue. Also whether or not a nude scene will be portrayed in an objectifying way is not really something the actors have much power over.

They’re more privileged than I am.

The really famous ones are. Most actors are no more privileged than any other ordinary person working a day job.

No, their job is better than anything day job people can get.

You’re crazy.

And the one’s who are in Blade Runner 2049 are definitely more privileged than me.

Well only you can judge how low that bar goes, but you’re grossly overestimating the lifestyle of random actress #12.

moviefreakedmind said:

They all have the ability to choose and they’re more privileged than me because they have a better job and get to create things for a living.

Not if they never get hired.

moviefreakedmind said:

They all have the ability to choose and they’re more privileged than me because they have a better job and get to create things for a living.

You’re talking about you now. This has nothing to do with you personally.

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I think my big disconnect is actually that I just can’t accept that I need to be offended that some of the most privileged people on Earth (actors) are getting paid to do things that I don’t see as that big of a deal. I’ve complained before about how offended I get when the .01% expects us plebs to join their causes while still dealing with all the other shit that we have to deal with that they’re completely ignorant of.

The fact that you think all actors are privelged proves how little you understand about the issue. Also whether or not a nude scene will be portrayed in an objectifying way is not really something the actors have much power over.

They’re more privileged than I am.

The really famous ones are. Most actors are no more privileged than any other ordinary person working a day job.

No, their job is better than anything day job people can get.

You’re crazy.

And the one’s who are in Blade Runner 2049 are definitely more privileged than me.

Well only you can judge how low that bar goes, but you’re grossly overestimating the lifestyle of random actress #12.

I think you’re grossly overestimating my lifestyle.

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

They all have the ability to choose and they’re more privileged than me because they have a better job and get to create things for a living.

You’re talking about you now. This has nothing to do with you personally.

moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

They all have the ability to choose and they’re more privileged than me because they have a better job and get to create things for a living.

Not if they never get hired.

That’s very sad and all, but it’s not going to ever make me offended by nudity in film, which was my whole point from the beginning. I’d also file “blacklisting” under “maltreatment” so I’m on their side there. I still think, if you don’t want to appear nude, then don’t fucking apply for a part that calls for nudity.

Cool. I guess they work and claw and scratch just to get a tiny part in a big blockbuster, but then they’ll pass on it because I’m sure the next one is right around the corner.

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

They all have the ability to choose and they’re more privileged than me because they have a better job and get to create things for a living.

You’re talking about you now. This has nothing to do with you personally.

Somehow this privilege business got brought, possibly even by me, I don’t know.

Yes, it got brought by you. 😛

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

They all have the ability to choose and they’re more privileged than me because they have a better job and get to create things for a living.

Not if they never get hired.

That’s very sad and all, but it’s not going to ever make me offended by nudity in film, which was my whole point from the beginning. I’d also file “blacklisting” under “maltreatment” so I’m on their side there. I still think, if you don’t want to appear nude, then don’t fucking apply for a part that calls for nudity.

Cool. I guess they work and claw and scratch just to get a tiny part in a big blockbuster, but then they’ll pass on it because I’m sure the next one is right around the corner.

If the big blockbuster calls for a nude scene, they should take it. This comes from someone who thinks we should all stop being so hung up on nudity, so keep that perspective in mind. I don’t see nudity as some scary thing.

Yes, we’ve established what your view is and your view misses the point. Several, actually.

Oh my God will somebody please watch a movie and then talk about it

moviefreakedmind said:

I don’t think someone should be opposed to appearing nude in a big blockbuster film if they want to be a big actor. I’ve done far more degrading jobs than appearing nude in a movie.

So you agree it can be degrading and that they might only make the choice because it’s helping their career and not because they’re “okay” with being objectified?

I REWATCHED OFFICE SPACE MANY BALLS MANY MANY BALLS

Didn’t care for the anorexia joke though, have a close friend with anorexia and she’s beautiful on the inside and if she would get better she would be on the outside too. Loses a ball for that.

Possessed said:

I REWATCHED OFFICE SPACE MANY BALLS MANY MANY BALLS

ALLOL

moviefreakedmind said:

I guess, but everyone does their jobs to further themselves. They may think that it’s degrading, but I think taking calls or working customer service is about fifty times more degrading but us commoners do it because we don’t want to starve to death.

Just because you don’t think it’s potentially degrading and objectifying doesn’t mean it isn’t. And agin you’re implying all actors aren’t “commoners” which is fucking ridiculous.

moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I guess, but everyone does their jobs to further themselves. They may think that it’s degrading, but I think taking calls or working customer service is about fifty times more degrading but us commoners do it because we don’t want to starve to death.

Just because you don’t think it’s potentially degrading and objectifying doesn’t mean it isn’t. And agin you’re implying all actors aren’t “commoners” which is fucking ridiculous.

There are common actors but they still have a better job than most people. Pretending to be happy in order to please customers or being nice to mean people and just praying to get tipped is so fucking degrading that it makes me sick. Do I have to be offended by restaurants and stores and places like that? No. Is anyone else offended on their behalf. Not really. I think this nudity issue is less degrading than what most people are subjected to in their jobs but for some reason this one is supposed to be more exciting and more outrageous than others, but I’m not buying it.

Most actors go months without work and are forced to do the exact kind of jobs you mention.

When it comes to nudity being degrading, I feel like we’ve drifted from the point here. The issue is objectification. Art has an impact on the mindsets of people who consume it. Women are often objectified in media via nudity. Whether that objectification is made by a man or woman doesn’t matter. The fact that women “agree” to do nude scenes does not absolve those scenes of any objectification, because that’s not how that fucking works.

TV’s Frink said:

Handman said:

TV’s Frink said:

Possessed said:

I’ll show you something that’s a bit bulky, but based on your posts today you probably wouldn’t want to see it.

Or would but can’t admit it for one reason or another.

We’re here for you regardless.

That’s his cross to bear, not ours.

What the fuck. So just because I don’t want to look at some guy’s bulge makes me gay?

I don’t know if you’re gay. It’s a little weird that it bothers you so much either way.

When you’re single, it doesn’t help your chances much. Men have come up to me a lot in the past and it’s kind of not great.