Is this still available? Been looking for something like this for a while.
Hello,
I would be so grateful if you could PM me links to the theatrical cut. I own the directors cut but since Milos Forman passed I’ve felt the need to see the original version again. I have the flipper from 1997 but it would be great to see in HD.
Thanks so much
RIP Milos
Thank you so much for this wonderful version. I was sad when we lost Milos at the weekend and I’m excited to watch the original version. It got me thinking. I have the pioneer special edition laserdisc from 1995, but no player. It contains a documentary on the making of the film called “The Last Laugh” I’m trying to find that for download. I know that some sections of it are used in the 2002 DVD/2009 Bluray Documentary but it would be nice to have that too. Do you know if that exists anywhere? Please let me know if you have any information on it, or PM me with a link.
Thank you again for everything.
Love this place.
So I just attended a screening of Amadeus with a live orchestra at Boston Symphony Hall, which was fucking amazing, of course. Anyway, to my surprise and utter elation, they showed a good-looking DCP of the theatrical cut that appeared to be sourced from the same master as the director’s cut blu-ray. Did it get an official release recently, or do we know if there’s one scheduled? I want to throw money at it if at all possible.
Did anyone, here, make an audio cap of any of the “Amadeus-Live-to-Projection” concerts? Adding that concert audio to this project would make it a great enhancement–especially with the crowd reactions on it.
Wait, there’s no link? Why God? Why?
Some time ago, I couldn’t keep up with the download requests, so it went up to MySpleen, but now that seems to be a dead-end since they dropped invites. I’d love to rerelease this as a V3. My goal would be to get ahold of the PCM stereo track from one of the laserdisc releases, along with the original commentary. A potential V3 would include the original LD audio, original commentary, LD AC3, DVD AC3 (if materially different from LD), and ISO music track. I don’t have the time or resources to track the laserdisc down or capture the audio, but if someone were to donate it, then I’d jump in on a V3. I would have to start from scratch.
There’s also got to be a better way to remove the “Director’s Cut” title than the way I did before.
If a DCP version exists of the theatrical cut, that’s a game changer. That needs to be out there somehow.
First off, nice work, mate! I thank you for your rigorous hard work. Amazing!
Secondly, I have the PSE-LD however, I’m not sure why nobody has come forward to say this yet, perhaps they have and I’ve haven’t combed through all the years and years of posts, if that’s the case, I apologize in advance. That said, extracting LD AC-3 is problematic at best if not virtually impossible, at least to keep the quality in its original form. Again, sorry if I’m repeating this, but LD AC-3 is quite different than DD AC-3 that was later widely used on DVD. LD AC-3 is actually not encoded onto a digital disc. The information is digital, but LD itself is an analog format despite its appearance or name. Basically, it’s like recording digital ones and zeros information onto a vinyl record. LD AC-3 required an RF demodulator for playback, LD AC-3 is often referred to as AC-3RF. There are no “files” to extract. It’s like trying to “extract” a song from a tape cassette. The only way to do this would be real-time playback and capture, dubbing (where are all the 80’s kids at?). The rub is that the quality will be less than stellar if not just on par with the DD AC-3 on the dvd anyway, this will negate the trouble of going through the process of capturing it to begin with. Hopefully, I’m an idiot and don’t know what I’m talking about and there is a digital way to extract the AC-3RF from the laserdisc while retaining its original quality, but if that was the case, I think somebody would have donated the track by now, since this appears to not have happened yet, I have to sadly assume my theory to be right, at least for now. I would try myself, I have a working Pioneer player with a AC-3 RF output, however, with great hubris, sold my Marantz surround receiver with a built-in AC-3 RF demodulator when DVD came out thinking; new tech = better quality. Boy, was I an idiot. I already owned a laserdisc player and discs at the time of the Amadeus PSE release, but luck would have it, my dad bought a Pioneer AC-3 LD player from a garage sale for $10! So I drop cash on an AC-3 receiver and this Amadeus edition just to hear what the big deal was all about. At the risk of sounding like a wuss, I nearly wept. The LD AC-3 was, to quote Salieri upon seeing Mozart’s music on paper, “miraculous.”
I’m pretty sure there’s more than a few people between this forum and Fanres that can capture LD AC3 just fine. We have LD AC3 captures of all the 1997 SW trilogy Special Edition 5.1 audio tracks, and the 1999 TPM 5.1 as well. If you were willing to lend your LD to someone with the equipment, I’m sure they’d be more than willing to capture it for you.
I’m pretty sure there’s more than a few people between this forum and Fanres that can capture LD AC3 just fine. We have LD AC3 captures of all the 1997 SW trilogy Special Edition 5.1 audio tracks, and the 1999 TPM 5.1 as well. If you were willing to lend your LD to someone with the equipment, I’m sure they’d be more than willing to capture it for you.
Great. I never said you couldn’t. I just think the extraction process wouldn’t be worth the effort due to quality degradation.
evilronin said:
Hopefully, I’m an idiot and don’t know what I’m talking about and there is a digital way to extract the AC-3RF from the laserdisc while retaining its original quality
There is. People do that on these forums all the time. If you have a RF demodulator that can bitstream DD, then you can just capture that with no re-encoding.
Star Trek: The Motion Picture DE - The Anti-DNR Fanedit
Duel (1971) - The Hybrid Cut
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I’m pretty sure there’s more than a few people between this forum and Fanres that can capture LD AC3 just fine. We have LD AC3 captures of all the 1997 SW trilogy Special Edition 5.1 audio tracks, and the 1999 TPM 5.1 as well. If you were willing to lend your LD to someone with the equipment, I’m sure they’d be more than willing to capture it for you.
Great. I never said you couldn’t. I just think the extraction process wouldn’t be worth the effort due to quality degradation.
Okay, good talk.
JEDIT: ElectricTriangle said what I was gonna say before I decided you were being unnecessarily snobby and dickish about it.
evilronin said:
Hopefully, I’m an idiot and don’t know what I’m talking about and there is a digital way to extract the AC-3RF from the laserdisc while retaining its original qualityThere is. People do that on these forums all the time. If you have a RF demodulator that can bitstream DD, then you can just capture that with no re-encoding.
Awesome. I didn’t think you could do it digitally. I’ll do more research. I’m trying to pick up a rf demod from eBay. Nostalgia is going cost me. Can you give me any direct links on the process? No worries if not, I’ll dig around myself. Thanks.
I’m pretty sure there’s more than a few people between this forum and Fanres that can capture LD AC3 just fine. We have LD AC3 captures of all the 1997 SW trilogy Special Edition 5.1 audio tracks, and the 1999 TPM 5.1 as well. If you were willing to lend your LD to someone with the equipment, I’m sure they’d be more than willing to capture it for you.
Great. I never said you couldn’t. I just think the extraction process wouldn’t be worth the effort due to quality degradation.
Okay, good talk.
JEDIT: ElectricTriangle said what I was gonna say before I decided you were being unnecessarily snobby and dickish about it.
Sor-ry forum emperor, I didn’t realized being courteous and apologizing ahead of time in my original post is considered snobby and dickish. Now I understand a bit more why people might be reluctant to post or donate an LD AC3 track. Thanks for providing me with my daily dose of irony. It’s humbling to be called a snob and dickish by someone who is eloquently courteous and understanding.
Oh, come on. You said something wasn’t doable, I politely said that several members of this and another forum have done exactly what you were saying wasn’t doable and that if you wanted assistance with it they’d be more than happy to help, and your response to that was, “Great. You’re wrong.”
evilronin said:
Awesome. I didn’t think you could do it digitally. I’ll do more research. I’m trying to pick up a rf demod from eBay. Nostalgia is going cost me. Can you give me any direct links on the process? No worries if not, I’ll dig around myself. Thanks.
I haven’t done it myself, but you basically need a sound card and recording set-up that can capture audio bit-perfect. That can actually be more of a pain than it sounds; a lot of cards and software re-sample stuff.
That’s just my basic understanding. If you have any questions, there’s many members here and on fanres that will be happy to help if you make a thread.
Star Trek: The Motion Picture DE - The Anti-DNR Fanedit
Duel (1971) - The Hybrid Cut
The Phantom of the Opera - 1925 Version Reconstruction - Rare Scores Collection - Roy Budd Score
I’d be eternally grateful for a link to this film restoration. I’ll even wash your car!!
Thanks so very much.
M~
P.S. And I do own both a VHS of the theatrical release and a DVD of the Director’s Cut.
I would also be grateful for a link to the final product of this project. I was immediately turned off by the director’s cut of this film when I saw it years ago. The theatrical version is much better, but flipping the dvd (which I do own) each time is so infuriating. Warner really screwed up its early dvd releases. Thanks you!
Yo dude, how can I download this? I’m new to the site.
Me too. I’m dying to see this. How can I get it?
evilronin said:
Awesome. I didn’t think you could do it digitally. I’ll do more research. I’m trying to pick up a rf demod from eBay. Nostalgia is going cost me. Can you give me any direct links on the process? No worries if not, I’ll dig around myself. Thanks.I haven’t done it myself, but you basically need a sound card and recording set-up that can capture audio bit-perfect. That can actually be more of a pain than it sounds; a lot of cards and software re-sample stuff.
- Here’s instructions on how to ensure that on Creative X-Fi Cards: https://app.box.com/s/6135gvxl13utjo0dj9n8
- You then record straight from the audio out (should sound like garbage, because it’s Dolby digital data before decoding). And save your recording to a wav file without any adjustments.
- Then you bsconvert to interpret the encapsulated AC3 stream inside the wav file.
http://www.ac3filter.net/wiki/AC3Filter_tools#bsconvert- (bsconvert should work for DTS and Dolby Digital. DTS can also use “DTS parser”:http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/SUCCESS-Bit-Perfect-Audio-Capture/id/15988)
- You can then use eac3to or a similar tool to edit the AC3 to sync it to the new video while avoiding transcoding:
https://forum.fanres.com/thread-1587.html
(You can also edit the wav file before converting it with bsconvert.)That’s just my basic understanding. If you have any questions, there’s many members here and on fanres that will be happy to help if you make a thread.
I never thanked you for the info. Update (whether you care or not, I guess), used the x-fi titanium, capture was straightforward, (sigh) some issues with bsconvert and eac3to ate a lot of the dynamic range I was hoping to retain. Had to play with sampling rates a bit and recapture a few times to overcome this. Long story short, now I’m running into some major drifting issues (sync), I have some speculation as to the cause, but nothing for sure, major suspect is the difference in source video versus HD format, which I didn’t think would have any bearing since is strictly raw audio not beholding to frame rates as such, but I could be wrong. Anyway, that’s where I’m at. Thanks for the info, it saved me some time with research. Cheers.
Would LOVE a theatrical bluray! Is it available?
Hello!
Is it possible to get the link for this great wonder?
Could I pleeeeease get a link to this? This is exactly what I’ve been looking for!
Can someone share a link with me? I love this movie, and already own it on DVD and blu ray, but both are Director’s Cut. My kid is a younger teenager, and is developing an interest in music–would love to show her the best (and also PG13) cut of one of my all time favorite films.
No chance someone could shoot me a link to this is there? I love this film, and I have to agree that the director’s cut is the inferior version of the film.
Could i also please have a link?
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