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Post #1192186

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GZK8000
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What's Actually in the Movies? (for a GURPS RPG)
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4-Apr-2018, 5:53 PM
  • Missiles of some sort (are they ever named in the films?)

Proton torpedoes you mean?

  • Hyperdrive (requires calculations, no real indication of how fast this is since we don’t have any scale of the Empire or distance between where the crews travel - except that it’s called ‘Galactic’)

It should be very fast since in TESB Captain Needa goes to see Vader right after the Falcon disappears from Imperial sensors and mere seconds after Needa’s death Piett says “if the Millenium Falcon went into lightspeed it would be on the other side of the galaxy by now”.

[…] (Leia’s ship - is it ever named?)

Nope.

  • Ships aren’t that common?

There’s not enough information. It might be Tatooine people are just very poor.

  • Lightsabers - seem to cut basically whatever, but can be stopped by tough materials. Not actually used much except Vader v. Obi/Luke fights - swords with an armor divisor

Ah good old PT screwing things.

  • Stormtrooper armor (seems useless, at least against direct hits from the weapons the heroes carry)

Did a stormtrooper die by a blast in the OT?

  • Droids can be tortured.

Damn you RotJ.

  • C3PO introduces himself as “Human-Cyborg Relations”. Cyborgs are common? Why do they need a droid to relate to humans?

Diplomacy, probably, specially with non-human species.

  • Cameras (on Death Star)

Those things were cameras?

  • Hologram communication (Emperor to Vader)

Also Vader with Veers, and Vader with Needa and a guy who died or lost communication at that moment

  • Empire had a senate (was dissolved), The Senate was important enough that some of the Imperial officers think doing away with it is risky. The Imperial senate was considered the last vestige of the Republic

In a 1977-only context you may add the Death Star was the only way the Empire could control the galaxy after the dissolution of the Senate.

  • Deleted Tatooine scene has Biggs talking about the Empire nationalizing commerce, so it’s apparently somewhere between interventionist and communist in its economic policies.

Not to sound rude but if you were to include deleted scenes why not including stuff from the drafts and final scripts? Like Vader being the Dark Lord of the Sith, whatever the Sith are here.

  • The Empire has been tightening its control recently, and that has driven more worlds to the Rebel Alliance.

Wasn’t that Leia one-upping Tarkin?

  • Actual Imperial authority seems pretty remote, at least on the sort of worlds where the movies are mostly set. Maybe they’ve got their hands full clamping down on the important worlds?

Tatooine is the only OT planet with a permanent human presence (Bespin is a gas planet) and Luke speaks of it negatively so there’s not enough information.

  • The Old Republic was apparently semi-feudal (akin to the Roman), whereas the Empire is bureaucratic-technical (as is the Rebel Alliance.

Not enough information honestly. I have also never seen people speculating the Old Republic was semi-feudal.

  • Feudal titles (Princess, Lord, Knight) and Republican ones (Senator) but these don’t seem to carry much weight anymore?

But Leia was a princess of an entire planet.

  • Lady in the big meeting over the Death Star plans in IV (is she named?)

I don’t even know who are you talking about hahaha.

  • Other people in the meeting, also people in V and VI rebel base (are any ever given name or rank?), rebel pilots (some are ‘leader’ of a squad but no rank otherwise given)

General Rieekan IIRC.

  • Cloud City: Cloud City, as grand as it seems, isn’t considered a big place by galactic standards.

It doesn’t have a name in the movies though. The closest is Luke’s “A city in the clouds”.

  • Rebel base on Yucatan Pyramid Planet (ever given a name in the movies?)

The satellite? Only refered as a moon (maybe the fourth moon of Yavin). It’s in the scene where Vader says to Tarkin it’s gonna be a great day for the Empire.

  • Improve your sword-fighting and piloting/space shooting abilities

Implied. Never confirmed IIRC.

  • Block blaster bolts? (Vader in V)

Maybe.

  • Fly/Jump (Vader & Luke)

When did Vader and Luke fly in the movies? They made great jumps but no flying.

  • See into the future or something (Yoda does this, the Emperor too?)

It may be the Emperor is just a smartass but it wouldn’t be strange for him to read the future (except when dying lol).

  • Turn into a force ghost when you die (Vader, Obi-Wan, Yoda); This is a sufficiently rare thing that Obi-wan figured Darth Vader would either be unaware of it, or at least unaware of Kenobi’s abilities in that state.

TBH Obi-Wan’s line never made a lot of sense but it’s a plausible explanation.

  • Jedis: Obi-Wan, Yoda, no one else ever mentioned as far as I can tell. No information given on them at all. The Jedi had an apprenticeship system of teaching that is apparently helped by withdrawing from the world (see Dagobah and the evil cave thing) but Jedi were involved in the world- Kenobi was a general, Anakin was a pilot. As a result there is no evidence that any but the Jedi Masters were monastic, becoming a Jedi didn’t mean you had to give up the world until you became like Yoda on Dagobah or Obi-Wan on Tatooine. Also the Jedi were Knights. Darth Vader is widely thought to be the last practitioner of the Jedi “religion.”

I see OT Yoda as a guy who was living in a swamp planet just because, while Obi-Wan was hiding from the Empire and maybe looking after Luke. Speculation though.

  • “The Lightsaber is the weapon of a Jedi Knight. A relic of a more civilized age.” Upper class? Everyone looks concerned when Obiwan whips out the lightsaber, but not Jedi concerned. Just like he’s a tough customer and wondering what his next move is. Again, implies lightsabers are not the exclusive tool of Jedi.

The PT screwing things - Part Two

  • Jedi were trained young

Not enough information. It is implied Yoda didn’t want to train Luke.