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It should’ve won best picture too but the Academy was being PC and was too scared to award it.

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moviefreakedmind said:

It should’ve won best picture too but the Academy was being PC and was too scared to award it.

I don’t think you’re using “PC” the right way.

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DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

It should’ve won best picture too but the Academy was being PC and was too scared to award it.

I don’t think you’re using “PC” the right way.

Political correctness goes both ways. Giving Brokeback Mountain best picture would’ve pissed a lot of people off and offended the dumb masses so they decided to just give it to something else to avoid all that. It’s PC enough to be called PC in my mind.

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moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

It should’ve won best picture too but the Academy was being PC and was too scared to award it.

I don’t think you’re using “PC” the right way.

Political correctness goes both ways. Giving Brokeback Mountain best picture would’ve pissed a lot of people off and offended the dumb masses so they decided to just give it to something else to avoid all that. It’s PC enough to be called PC in my mind.

That’s not what happened though. Many members of the Academy we’re legitimately homophobic and didn’t vote for it because of that.

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DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

It should’ve won best picture too but the Academy was being PC and was too scared to award it.

I don’t think you’re using “PC” the right way.

Political correctness goes both ways. Giving Brokeback Mountain best picture would’ve pissed a lot of people off and offended the dumb masses so they decided to just give it to something else to avoid all that. It’s PC enough to be called PC in my mind.

That’s not what happened though. Many members of the Academy we’re legitimately homophobic and didn’t vote for it because of that.

But going with Crash was very calculated because it was a slightly controversial subject matter, but not as much as Brokeback Mountain.

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moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

It should’ve won best picture too but the Academy was being PC and was too scared to award it.

I don’t think you’re using “PC” the right way.

Political correctness goes both ways. Giving Brokeback Mountain best picture would’ve pissed a lot of people off and offended the dumb masses so they decided to just give it to something else to avoid all that. It’s PC enough to be called PC in my mind.

That’s not what happened though. Many members of the Academy we’re legitimately homophobic and didn’t vote for it because of that.

But going with Crash was very calculated because it was a slightly controversial subject matter, but not as much as Brokeback Mountain.

Crash was like throwing a bone. “Yeah we don’t like the cowboy butt sex stuff but here’s a movie about racism that we can pretend is good!”

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DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

It should’ve won best picture too but the Academy was being PC and was too scared to award it.

I don’t think you’re using “PC” the right way.

Political correctness goes both ways. Giving Brokeback Mountain best picture would’ve pissed a lot of people off and offended the dumb masses so they decided to just give it to something else to avoid all that. It’s PC enough to be called PC in my mind.

That’s not what happened though. Many members of the Academy we’re legitimately homophobic and didn’t vote for it because of that.

But going with Crash was very calculated because it was a slightly controversial subject matter, but not as much as Brokeback Mountain.

Crash was like throwing a bone. “Yeah we don’t like the cowboy butt sex stuff but here’s a movie about racism that we can pretend is good!”

Yes. It was all in an attempt to not offend anyone, but in the end everyone was pissed off.

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moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

It should’ve won best picture too but the Academy was being PC and was too scared to award it.

I don’t think you’re using “PC” the right way.

Political correctness goes both ways. Giving Brokeback Mountain best picture would’ve pissed a lot of people off and offended the dumb masses so they decided to just give it to something else to avoid all that. It’s PC enough to be called PC in my mind.

That’s not what happened though. Many members of the Academy we’re legitimately homophobic and didn’t vote for it because of that.

But going with Crash was very calculated because it was a slightly controversial subject matter, but not as much as Brokeback Mountain.

Crash was like throwing a bone. “Yeah we don’t like the cowboy butt sex stuff but here’s a movie about racism that we can pretend is good!”

Yes. It was all in an attempt to not offend anyone, but in the end everyone was pissed off.

Well, I disagree that it supposedly was done to “not offend anyone.” I think it didn’t win because voters were actually offended.

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DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

It should’ve won best picture too but the Academy was being PC and was too scared to award it.

I don’t think you’re using “PC” the right way.

Political correctness goes both ways. Giving Brokeback Mountain best picture would’ve pissed a lot of people off and offended the dumb masses so they decided to just give it to something else to avoid all that. It’s PC enough to be called PC in my mind.

That’s not what happened though. Many members of the Academy we’re legitimately homophobic and didn’t vote for it because of that.

But going with Crash was very calculated because it was a slightly controversial subject matter, but not as much as Brokeback Mountain.

Crash was like throwing a bone. “Yeah we don’t like the cowboy butt sex stuff but here’s a movie about racism that we can pretend is good!”

Yes. It was all in an attempt to not offend anyone, but in the end everyone was pissed off.

Well, I disagree that it supposedly was done to “not offend anyone.” I think it didn’t win because voters were actually offended.

They found the film offensive so they didn’t select it so as not to offend anyone else (because most Americans were offended by that movie at the time) but they also didn’t want to offend people that actually care about making artistic films about taboo subject matters so they selected Crash hoping that the racial angle would be enough to keep people happy. And then everyone was pissed off. This is why political correctness is an embarrassment; it isn’t just about being decent to people, it also extends to art. What people are offended by often isn’t rational and this was a perfect example of that.

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moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

It should’ve won best picture too but the Academy was being PC and was too scared to award it.

I don’t think you’re using “PC” the right way.

Political correctness goes both ways. Giving Brokeback Mountain best picture would’ve pissed a lot of people off and offended the dumb masses so they decided to just give it to something else to avoid all that. It’s PC enough to be called PC in my mind.

That’s not what happened though. Many members of the Academy we’re legitimately homophobic and didn’t vote for it because of that.

But going with Crash was very calculated because it was a slightly controversial subject matter, but not as much as Brokeback Mountain.

Crash was like throwing a bone. “Yeah we don’t like the cowboy butt sex stuff but here’s a movie about racism that we can pretend is good!”

Yes. It was all in an attempt to not offend anyone, but in the end everyone was pissed off.

Well, I disagree that it supposedly was done to “not offend anyone.” I think it didn’t win because voters were actually offended.

They found the film offensive so they didn’t select it so as not to offend anyone else (because most Americans were offended by that movie at the time) but they also didn’t want to offend people that actually care about making artistic films about taboo subject matters so they selected Crash hoping that the racial angle would be enough to keep people happy. And then everyone was pissed off. This is why political correctness is an embarrassment; it isn’t just about being decent to people, it also extends to art. What people are offended by often isn’t rational and this was a perfect example of that.

The Academy is not a hive mind or even a committee. It’s individual people making individual choices. A person that didn’t vote for Brokeback Mountain likely isn’t caring about whether most Americans will be offended or not, they’re making their decision based on what they think. Famously at the time there were even voters proudly proclaiming that they were refusing to watch Brokeback because of the gay content.

The idea that every Oscar winner is chosen based solely on political agendas is one of my least favorite semi-conspiracy theories.

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DominicCobb said:

The idea that every Oscar winner is chosen based solely on political agendas is one of my least favorite semi-conspiracy theories.

Not all of them, but that one for sure.

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moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

The idea that every Oscar winner is chosen based solely on political agendas is one of my least favorite semi-conspiracy theories.

Not all of them, but that one for sure.

Difference between personal preferences and a larger political agenda. If Brokeback had won people would’ve been saying that it won because of the gay agenda. Doesn’t make it true.

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DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

The idea that every Oscar winner is chosen based solely on political agendas is one of my least favorite semi-conspiracy theories.

Not all of them, but that one for sure.

Difference between personal preferences and a larger political agenda. If Brokeback had won people would’ve been saying that it won because of the gay agenda. Doesn’t make it true.

In that case it wouldn’t have been true, but it was definitely a very calculated anti-gay agenda that kept it from winning.

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Sabrina (1954) and Sabrina (1995). I don’t understand why there’s a remake.

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Handman said:

Sabrina (1954) and Sabrina (1995). I don’t understand why there’s a remake.

Should I watch it? Was considering it (just saw the original recently).

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DominicCobb said:

Handman said:

Sabrina (1954) and Sabrina (1995). I don’t understand why there’s a remake.

Should I watch it? Was considering it (just saw the original recently).

If you have nothing better to do, I don’t see why not. It doesn’t have anything to offer that the original doesn’t do better. As far as remakes go, it’s not terrible, but it’s not that great either. The interplay between Ford and Kinnear as the Larrabee brothers was pretty good. Definitely watchable. Other than that it’s a pretty standard 90s romcom, and I wouldn’t recommend it unless you were really curious about how someone could remake Sabrina.

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Perfect way to end the discussion.

I don’t even remember posting that, I have no clue how it got there.

“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”

Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death

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Yesterday i saw The Force Awakens: Restructured
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I finally got to see The Last Jedi.

My Thoughts about them will come soon.

“Get over violence, madness and death? What else is there?”

Also known as Mr. Liquid Jungle.

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Kes - I had to watch it with the alternate dubbing because the Yorkshire accents were so strong, but it was fantastic. It was a pretty accurate depiction of the human existence, although the Ocampa didn’t look anything like they were supposed to look. Other than that oversight, though, I loved the film and would recommend that everyone watch it.

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Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle- Lightweight, but surprisingly fun little adventure flick sequel with a likable cast (excluding Kevin Hart, who may well be funny in some context, but in this one just irritates me). Zippy, knowingly silly, and full of set pieces. Four kids get sucked into a video game and are forced to play out their roles. The Rock continues to be an enjoyable charismatic scene presence, and director Jake Kasdan keeps the whole tone light. Way more fun than I was expecting.

“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”

Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death

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The Director and The Jedi

Such a interesting and emotional Documentary. were we see them Happy and see them Sad. we see them Putting all of their Hearts in to this film. This is Easily the best Star wars documentary yet. Two Thumbs Up!

“Get over violence, madness and death? What else is there?”

Also known as Mr. Liquid Jungle.

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Gamer (2009) - Okay so with Ready Player One coming out, I got kinda curious about previous cinematic forays into VR/gaming sort of things. This was a movie who’s premise interested me at the time, though the reviews kept me away. Turns out, yep, the premise is amazing, but the movie is… not quite that. It has a lot of great ideas and portrays them in consistently the dumbest ways possible. Which, I guess at least makes it fun, here and there. C-

The Lawnmower Man (1992) - Another VR movie, let’s just say the premise of this one is not quite as good. Occasionally becomes so bad it’s good, which is probably the only redeeming factor. D

War Games (1983) - It occurred to me that I had never actually seen this movie all the way though, only chunks here and there on TV. It was actually better than I remembered, more suspenseful and also more fun and lighthearted than I had thought. A good watch. B

Pacific Rim: Uprising (2018) - Ehhhhh this is a bit of a shame. I feel like there’s a good story here that’s hidden under the scrap heap, but it never gets a chance to lift off. Enjoyable moments and an always great Boyega make this watchable, but it does really get quite boring after awhile. C

Tron: Legacy (2010) - I was trying to figure out why it took me so long to see this movie, and honestly there’s no explanation. Wanted to see it when it came out, never got around to it. Better late than never. Music’s great, visuals tend to be pretty good (though after awhile they verge on monotonous), some cool set pieces. Buuuut characterization across the board is pretty weak here, which I guess wouldn’t have been a problem if they weren’t trying to make everything so dramatic. But they did. B-

Short Circuit (1986) - Amusing if slight story. Doesn’t do much to make me care all that much about anything going on. Cool robot I guess. C

Ready Player One (2018) - If it’s Spielberg, I’m there. Been excited about this for awhile, at least until recently when it became clear that this would be some sort of reference fest. Fortunately, the references are mostly background stuff, but occasionally they are legitimately distracting, and with little purpose to the narrative. Still, an incredibly fun trip with some really cool set pieces. If it didn’t fumble its final message, I would have really loved it. Alas. B