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Originally posted by: jimbo
I God the Hayden head was bad enough. Please do not change Bobas voice.Quote
Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
meh... regardless of how many things they fix and dont fix... i keep on remembering that its gonna have all the SE bastardized scenes...
so i guess its not too much to get excited about...
Now what is it. Now that the Jabba animation and Han and Greedo have been fixed what about the 1997 Special Editions is there to complain about. The only thing left is the new Hayden head. I am finally on the same bout when you guys. I hate that change to death.
Well, this might vary from person to person, but for most of us, there's Luke's scream as he falls, Darth Vader's new arrival at his Star Destroyer, the new Jabba's Palace dance sequence thing (both the dance sequence and the new song) and the new celebration ending at the end of Return of the Jedi. There's also lots of other stuff, but those are just the main ones.
Han and Greedo might look a lot better now (and even though they improved it a lot, it's still Greedo shooting first) and they may have fixed up Jabba (in which case I probably won't mind the scene as much), but there's still lots of stuff they changed in the 1997 Special Editions that we hate, as I pointed out above.
And if they do alter Boba Fett's voice, I'm going to be really pissed off. I'm hoping it's not true, but unfortunately I can definitely see this happening. Why can't Lucas just stick to actual, real improvements like fixing up the lightsabers in A New Hope or removing the matte lines around the Rancor? Why does he have to completely screw with the movies like this by adding Hayden into the end of Return of the Jedi and now possibly changing Boba Fett's voice? Well, this all proves to me that the Special Editions (or Ultimate Editions or whatever these the new versions are called) aren't the movies that George Lucas originally intended to make, as he always claims - they're the movies he wants them to be right now. If he's embarrased by the original versions or just hates them or something and because of that is now changing the movies to resemble what he wants them to be right now, he should come out and just say it instead of hiding behind his "it's how I originally intended them to be" excuse, which is not true.
Yes, some of the Special Edition stuff he did originally intend to do (Jabba the Hutt in A New Hope, Cloud City and Mos Eisley being more open, etc.) but there's also lots of stuff he did that he didn't originally intend, like Greedo shooting first. He may have said that he originally intended that, but I don't believe him one bit, especially since I read part of an interview with Gary Kurtz, who was the producer for A New Hope. In the part I read, he said that it wasn't true that Lucas originally intended for Greedo to shoot first and that it could have easily been done back then, but it was shot and edited as Han shooting first because that's the way it was written in the script and that's the way Lucas wanted it back then.
So some of these things Lucas is doing just to be politically correct and say "No" to violence or something like that. And in case anyone's interested, check this out: http://dvdfile.com/software/cut_list/files/starwars_censored.htm
It shows two scenes aboard the Death Star where some of the violence was censored in the Special Editions, which really backs up the argument that Lucas changed Han shooting first to Greedo shooting first because of political correctness.
Anyway, I think I've just gone waaaaaay off topic, so I'll stop here.